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Old August 15th, 2009, 01:59 AM   #341
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Well, I am not sercan but I want to reply to you

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Dear Sercan,

Thanks for the thread about old Istanbul, it's a good thing that the old city is preserved and being restored.
Actually many of the pics are from new areas, at least most of them from late Ottoman period but both ancient and medieval areas are well preserved too.


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I read that in Ottoman times Muslims, Christians and Jews could coexist in peace in Turkey, is it still the case today?
True. since Ottoman Emp. was the most cosmopolitan state of it's time, many different religions were living side by side especially in large cities such as Istanbul, Izmir, Skopje or Selonika but today there aren't large christian or jewish communities around. After WWI christians of Ottoman Emp. founded their own states in Balkans, the Anatolian ones exchanged with muslim populiation in those countries due to several agreements and jewish community mostly moved to Israel.


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Is the Greek church in your image still used as a church?
AFAIK, It's still in use like most of others.

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Old August 15th, 2009, 01:15 PM   #342
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*** Flamewar messages are gone, so I am removing the reply to them. I hope one of the most beatiful architecture threads is kept clear from more political nationalist propagandas. Please read about the history of Istanbul's Architectural heritage if you really like to have some idea. ***

Majority of the historical buildings in Istanbul is built in Ottoman times by Sultan himself, and by wealthy, high-level Turks, Greeks, Jews, Armenians, the ethnicities which form the city. This thread includes structures mainly from 18-19th Century.

Ethnicity and nationality of architects of the buildings are wide and diverse like the owners, including architects from Europe as addition to own ethnic structure of Ottoman which includes Armenians, Greeks, Jews and Turks. There is no group that can be kept responsible for the whole or majority of the architectural heritage. If there is someone responsible it is the Ottoman Empire and the ethnicities forming it.


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Dear Sercan,
Is the Greek church in your image still used as a church?
That church is Hagia Triada Church in Beyoğlu built between 1867-1880. It is still used as a church and it just in the circle of Taksim. The other side of the church, which is facing the circle is more recognised as an image.





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Old August 15th, 2009, 06:16 PM   #343
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Churches still used? By whom exactly?

Anyway I'll be quiet for now, incase I say something that might make you try have me charged with Article 301 "Insulting Turkishness".
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Old August 15th, 2009, 06:38 PM   #344
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Street-level view of the gate (left) as seen from Galatasaray Square on İstiklal Avenue



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Old August 16th, 2009, 06:42 PM   #345
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A Water Fairy in Istanbul...

Ahmet Afif Paşa Yalısı
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First Owner: Ferendiz Hanım, The Daughter of Reşit Paşa (Current look achieved during Ahmet Afif Paşa's ownership)
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Old August 16th, 2009, 07:52 PM   #346
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Churches still used? By whom exactly?
By turkish christians no matter what their ethnical background is!
It's your choice to believe me or not but it's a fact that the turkish christian community is slowly growing. In recent years, many old orthodox churches have been restored for the protestant community, which is soon bigger than the orthodox, I think.
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the old site of the Surp Pirgic Armenian Hospital in Istanbul,
founded 1832 with the initiative of Sultan Mahmud II.









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Old August 20th, 2009, 09:53 PM   #348
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Old August 20th, 2009, 11:47 PM   #349
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Amazing city , Great Architecture , don't be jealous.
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Old August 23rd, 2009, 11:13 PM   #350
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I just have to say I really loved this building. It may not be that unique or high-class, and not as big and "imperial" as other buildings, but I just fell for it. Cool stuff and many other cool buildings too, of course!
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Old August 24th, 2009, 02:05 PM   #351
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Old August 24th, 2009, 10:30 PM   #353
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I would to visit Constantinople one day! It looks amazing! The architectural variety is superb unlike many European cities.
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Old August 24th, 2009, 11:17 PM   #354
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How can someone say most of those are left from Roman and Byzantine times, or the remaining used to belong to Greeks only?
I dont think that anyone said that the remaining used to belong to Greeks only.However the majority of them yes,it used to belong to Greeks
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most of the architects of these buildings were armenian and than jewish, italian and french of course there most be also some of greek origion.
Today we still speak about armenian architecture in Istanbul, not Greek!
The ottoman architects of armenian origion have even their own special cemeteries.
whole ssc can see now how blind fanaticism can make
don't stop show us your envy.
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Old August 24th, 2009, 11:59 PM   #356
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Great pics Jakob and Sercan!
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most of the architects of these buildings were armenian and than jewish, italian and french of course there most be also some of greek origion.
Today we still speak about armenian architecture in Istanbul, not Greek!
The ottoman architects of armenian origion have even their own special cemeteries.
whole ssc can see now how blind fanaticism can make
don't stop show us your envy.
btw those buildings were built by ottoman turks.. they commisioned those buildings.. we built this city..

it's like claiming olympic stadium of athens as spanish cuz the architect is of that nationality..

again, inferiority complex is a bad thing..
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I know, I tried to make it clear that's why I have spoken about the origins
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Old August 25th, 2009, 01:18 AM   #359
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I dont think that anyone said that the remaining used to belong to Greeks only.However the majority of them yes,it used to belong to Greeks
Many of them yes, but majority? A very big NO! Sorry..


And, Constantinople may rest there 1000 years before Turks arrive but that doesn't change the fact that Constantinople is just as size of a district of Ottoman and Modern Istanbul.

Many great districts formed along Bosphorus was during Ottoman times, of which we see mainly in this thread.

In Istanbul especially around Galata, many houses were owned/built by Greeks, yet when we consider the imperial buildings shown here they are not the majority.

For instance most significant architectural pieces like big yalis along Bosphorus, many mansions were belonging to high class Turkish Pashas, many other buildings shown here were built by the sultanate, royal family.

Greeks were an important part of Istanbul through Ottoman Rule but was not the only or main element as you are trying to portray. Your knowledge is limited, and fairly biased.

Considering your general attidude in SSC, posting like crazy to old messages, opening flamewar threads, I will not repeat my advice of read complete history of architecture of Istanbul, because it is obvious that you are so far from it, you are just here to cause trouble.
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