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Old April 12th, 2016, 05:15 PM   #61
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I don't know in what century you are living but that is def NOT impossible nowadays
oh yeah, I didn't know whether it's possible,

but such tall building is nowhere still, huh? Whenever such tall building is really built, then I'll believe it. don't worry.
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Old April 12th, 2016, 05:27 PM   #62
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Make it a 500m+ section and it'll be alive and kicking. About damn time Jan!

(I've been suggesting a 500+ section like 4 or 5 years ago.)

But it should be segmented just like the supertalls section, with a subforum for proposals.
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Old April 13th, 2016, 10:40 AM   #63
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500 is suitable.
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Old April 13th, 2016, 11:27 AM   #64
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Megatalls are well known to be 600m+ .. it is ridiculous making it 500m on this forum just because we will get better activity on it and more towers added on it (some are just to tiny it is just funny to be considered Megatalls).

Anyways Jeddah tower on its own can create activity on it equal to the whole forum of Supertalls so I don't feel like the excuse of activity is a valid one.
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Old April 13th, 2016, 12:01 PM   #65
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600+ please..!!
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Old April 13th, 2016, 02:25 PM   #66
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So there are two favorites, the 500m+ and the 600m+ supporter. And now? Will there be a voting about that?
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Old April 13th, 2016, 02:48 PM   #67
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600+ for me. Megatalls arent common, therefore every such project should be cherished, admired and talked about. What I mean is, even if there isn't enough of these, they still deserve a seperate section.
+1 to this, I'm in agreement.
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Old April 13th, 2016, 02:49 PM   #68
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There are currently 54 buildings built, under construction or proposed that meet the 500 meter threshold by official height (this from a search from skyscraperpage.com/diagrams).

I prefer the 600 meter cutoff.

If we assume that the number of 600+ meter proposals either continues or increases at its current pace, the 600 meter mark makes sense. To me, 500 meters doesn't distinguish Megatall from Supertall well enough. As others had pointed out by way of example, at 500m, One World Trade would be considered a Megatall - and that height level is fairly saturated, especially at the spire/antennae level.

Just my subjective opinion of course, but at this stage in skyscraper development worldwide, I'd rather reserve the Megatall thread for those towers that push belief or create stir.
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Old April 13th, 2016, 04:07 PM   #69
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I suggest adding a "Height" column heading to the Supertall thread which allows sorting by height descending.
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Old April 13th, 2016, 04:44 PM   #70
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Megatalls are well known to be 600m+ .. it is ridiculous making it 500m on this forum just because we will get better activity on it and more towers added on it (some are just to tiny it is just funny to be considered Megatalls). Anyways Jeddah tower on its own can create activity on it equal to the whole forum of Supertalls so I don't feel like the excuse of activity is a valid one.
But i wouldn't split into U/C and Proposed since there are just a few U/C.
But by looking in the future i prefer a section for 600m+ towers.
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Old April 13th, 2016, 08:25 PM   #71
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Although I think 600m+ would be right choice, this is my proposal:


We could open another poll with question 500m+ or 600m+. Final height of Megatall category could be calculated as average between 500m and 600m upon poll result. As percentage is already given in poll result this value is not hard to calculate as following:

Example: if 10% people vote for 500 and 90% people for 600 then average value is 590m+. If 60% people vote for 500 and 40% people for 600 then average value is 540m+. Basically average value is percentage of people who voted for 600m added on basis 500.

Megatall height = 500 + percentage_of_people_who_voted_for_600_m


This way nobody could complain. Totally democratic. Moreover everybody probably has different impression over 'what should be megatall' since perception of height is subjective. By calculating final height of megatall category upon poll result everybody in forum could participate as arbiter.


As curiosity to this I would suggest that final result is calculated upon two digits since percentage in poll result is two digit anyway. This way final value might resemble like this: 5**.**m. Why not?
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Old April 13th, 2016, 09:57 PM   #72
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Your concept is true democratic, but could produce weird results.
What if the vote is for example 7% for 500m and 93% for 600m?
Should we define megatalls in this way, 593m+? Or counting only in 10% steps?
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I vote for 593 meters.


Actually I like what someone said earlier... 500+ with 600+ as stickies.
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Old April 13th, 2016, 10:13 PM   #74
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Actually I like what someone said earlier... 500+ with 600+ as stickies.
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Old April 13th, 2016, 10:32 PM   #75
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I'm looking forward to the day when they add a GIGATALL section.
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Old April 13th, 2016, 11:17 PM   #76
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I would say 500m+ is better. Reason:

1) 90% of all megatall projects are just vision. Only 3/4 megatall are under construction at the moment. Many have been cancelled, on hold and most will never get built. A lot of them aren't even serious proposals.

2) Adding to previous point, megatalls are far too less in number right now. There is no need to have a new section just for 2 or 3 projects. It won't be practical in any way


We can change our classification of megatall after 5 or 10 years when more projects get approved. Right now, a 600m building is no more bigger landmark than 500m. The only megatalls that get publicity are world record holders, how many Chinese megatalls do you know of, exactly? Point

So yeah, 500 for now. We may revise it to 600m sometimes in future if we get more projects. 500 it is
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Old April 13th, 2016, 11:39 PM   #77
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We can change our classification of megatall after 5 or 10 years when more projects get approved.


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So yeah, 500 for now. We may revise it to 600m sometimes in future if we get more projects. 500 it is
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I can't take this thread seriously anymore!
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Old April 13th, 2016, 11:46 PM   #78
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Although I think 600m+ would be right choice, this is my proposal:


We could open another poll with question 500m+ or 600m+. Final height of Megatall category could be calculated as average between 500m and 600m upon poll result. As percentage is already given in poll result this value is not hard to calculate as following:

Example: if 10% people vote for 500 and 90% people for 600 then average value is 590m+. If 60% people vote for 500 and 40% people for 600 then average value is 540m+. Basically average value is percentage of people who voted for 600m added on basis 500.

Megatall height = 500 + percentage_of_people_who_voted_for_600_m


This way nobody could complain. Totally democratic. Moreover everybody probably has different impression over 'what should be megatall' since perception of height is subjective. By calculating final height of megatall category upon poll result everybody in forum could participate as arbiter.


As curiosity to this I would suggest that final result is calculated upon two digits since percentage in poll result is two digit anyway. This way final value might resemble like this: 5**.**m. Why not?
Yea sure that's gonna be fun if e.g. 62,43% of the members vote for 600m+. Then you classify a 562m tall tower a supertall, but a 563m tall tower a Megatall. That's gonna be way too confusing.
I don't like the idea of creating a new minimum height of 500m+, but this...
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Old April 14th, 2016, 10:08 AM   #79
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A Megatall is 600m+ and that won't change.
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Old April 14th, 2016, 11:00 AM   #80
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^ Right.

My proposal:

Open a section called "500+" or similar. Then integrate a subsection for 600+ and call them "Megatalls".

That way we don't need additional "proposed" forums but still have both of them together, yet separated for admiration.
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