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Wilmington Development News
it's about time we started a wilmington thread. thee are plenty of delawareans here that we can keep this alive.
here's an article from the news journal concerning a new building going up at the corner of 2nd & king streets. this is a nie looking building, and should make wilmington look a lot nicer. http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjo...ltowertor.html and here is the article if you odn't want to click on the link: Quote:
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I'm kinda pissed they downsized the building. Nonetheless, it's great news!
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cool tower.
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22-24. Still, at 500,000 sf it is about 70 percent the size of Cira, which is still decent.
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it's decent, but i also would've liked it a little bigger. my opinion for any city is that a bigger skyline means a bigger city (or at least a more prosperous and important city). a taller and bigger building would make the city look a little more important to people passing through on i-95.
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TACKY
I don't know if anyone else feels the same but at this point I think to recreate a similiar building, already under construction in philly and scale it dwn for wilmington is pretty damn tacky. Not to mention the fact that the shape resembles the first bank one bulding (soon to be renamed Chase) already in place with it's peaking roofline..Come on Wilmington if we're foinf to be "inspiring" and fresh lets go all out with a design no other city has.
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Builder...
This was proposed in the same time in which Cira Cente was. Because of the slower nature of Wilmington's skyscraper construction, Cira Centre was, of course, built first. Since then, the construction/design firm has been rethinking this project. It is no longer appropriate to view that illustration which is is rendered on above posts. Because of the Cira Centre, there is an emphasis on differing this building from the Cira Centre. It will still, in most opinions, be quite similar to the building, but will most probably be a bit different than Cira Centre in Philly. For sake, Cira Centre is only 20 miles away from Two Christina Centre. I am excited to see with what they come up. Even without this building, the skyline still we be very much affected by Gateway Plaza in uptown, with the Renaissance Centre at 4th and Market, the AAA building on the riverfront, the ING complex being built also on the riverfront, the Renaissance Centre on 4th and Market, the retail complex on 2nd and Market, the 22 story apts on "A" street, and the 24 story condo on south market street. This is beside the new hotel complex on the riverfront, the new casino south of the CBD, and whatever they will decide to do on that MASSIVE 7th Street Peninsula Project. Wilmington wasn't rated the most economically secure MSA in the nation for nothing. It holds its' own. |
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CNN. It isn't highest standard of living, cause of crime, obviously. It's because we have N.E. Salaries with all the bankers, pharmaceutical people, lawyers, etc.. yet we have no sales tax, stuff is cheap, low property values.
This all leads to lots of money, and jobs, yet really low expenses and relative cost of living. NYers make a lot but pay alot for everything. Central Virginians make less money but yet pay less money. Wilmington-Newark has TONS of jobs and money, while shit is dirt cheap here. Best of both worlds. How many Lexuses (Lexi?) BMWs Mercedes and Acuras do you see around here. I notice this as I travel. Hockessin and Pike Creek are in the top 20 in areas with the largest homes.. Too bad Delaware is so utterly boring or we'd be set. (Bows to Philly and NYC) BTW: This is the latest rendering of CL since they upped the condo to 24. They're closer than I expected. ![]() Oh yeah.. and on 4th and King there's a billboard with this building on, coming 2006. ![]() There are white papers on all the business windows. The block has totally evacuated and is ready for the destruct. Last edited by Joe84323; March 23rd, 2005 at 02:55 AM. |
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I drove north to philly today and couldnt help but notice the new building going up near the Blue Rocks stadium area..
What building is that? |
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Which one?
First is new AAA Mid-Atlantic HQ. Second is the smaller of the Christina Landing Residential jauns. Photos courtesy M. Glanden www.addresswilmington.com |
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I think it was the 2nd one.. you can see it really well from 495. Thanks!
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I really like this shot of Christina Landing
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Argggggggh DON'T TAKE 495 North. It takes longer. 95 is better north thru the city with a better view. 495 is better going south, as 95 south thru the city always jams up.
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Let the damn city annex, already!
I never understood this. The last time Wilmington annexed land was when it was bigger than Phoenix (1800s). There have been some bullshit wasteland annexes, but we need this so the city (72,000) can rightfully claim some of it's metro (618,000, 2003 est.)
Wilmington News Journal 3/23/05 Minner wants to let Wilmington grow Governor thinks letting city bypass county, state would help solve financial bind By CHIP GUY and ADAM TAYLOR / The News Journal 03/23/2005 Gov. Ruth Ann Minner said Tuesday she wants state lawmakers to give Wilmington the same authority as other towns to annex adjoining land, something city officials have long said they need to grow, bring in jobs and remain solvent. Minner said annexation power could help Wilmington dig out of a financial bind that could lead to a budget deficit of $15 million by 2009. "They see it as that, and we're willing to work with them on that," Minner said. Greg Patterson, Minner's spokesman, said the city will "be a little better able to control their destiny." Mayor James M. Baker said city leaders were happy to hear about Minner's idea, but said the city still needs $15 million a year from the state to avert projected seven-figure deficits in the coming years. City officials questioned how much annexation powers would help the city because most contiguous areas are developed. County neighborhoods already have a suburban identity that residents would resist changing. Businesses probably wouldn't volunteer to become part of Wilmington because of higher property taxes and a 1.25 percent wage tax. "It would have been great to have this power after World War II, when the city's water system was still expanding and it would have been easier to acquire newly developing land," said Baker's chief of staff, William S. Montgomery. Wilmington now is the only municipality in the state that must win county and state approval of annexation requests. Those limits were put in place in the early 1970s, when the city tried to forcibly annex the DuPont Co.'s Experimental Station property. The need for state approval was added later. The changes, which Minner will include in a more extensive anti-sprawl bill, will not allow Wilmington - or any other town - to annex land against the wishes of the owners. The process can only happen when land owners - or a majority of owners of a large parcel - petition to be annexed. Minner said the issue boils down to fairness - Wilmington should be allowed to operate under the same annexation rules as Middletown, Bridgeville or Smyrna. At the same time, Minner's bill would give the state more power to reject annexation plans by any municipality that did not mesh with state growth blueprints. Still, some state legislators and New Castle County Council members said they oppose the Minner plan. Wilmington's well-being should not come at the expense of the county's property tax base, they said. House Speaker Terry Spence, R-Stratford, and Majority Leader Rep. Wayne A. Smith, R-Clair Manor, said the idea is sure to cause a stir of discussion and debate. "I don't personally have a problem with it," Spence said. But Smith lawmakers and constituents who live in neighboring suburbs might, which could hurt Minner's bill in the House. 'Correct a wrong' Rep. Hazel D. Plant, D-Wilmington Central, said she hopes state lawmakers do the right thing and help a struggling city. "It would help the city of Wilmington tremendously," Plant said. "Wilmington is the biggest city the state has. But all the other towns in the state have all kinds of annexation powers. The city doesn't have anything." Senate Majority Leader Harris B. McDowell III, D-Wilmington North, said he supports the idea, but doesn't think it will help Wilmington all that much. "Symbolically, it's a wonderful gesture, trying to correct a wrong of the past," McDowell said. "But I think it's too late." New Castle County Executive Chris Coons was not available for comment, but Council President Paul Clark, a Democrat, said he has been a longtime advocate of giving Wilmington the ability to annex. "It's fair," he said. "The city is our heart, it's the heart of all of Delaware. If it's not a vibrant place, we're not going to attract jobs." Robert Weiner, a Republican from Brandywine Hundred, disagreed. He said the county should not be forced to lose tax base to benefit the city. A host of opposition Weiner and other county officials, particularly former County Executive Thomas Gordon, have opposed several requests by Wilmington in the last 10 years to annex small parcels for economic development. City officials said they might be interested in some adjoining undeveloped areas, such as brownfields near South Wilmington. In his vision plan released last year, Baker said he would like to create a recreational/education complex that could annex some properties just over the city line. There also are some enclaves of the county that are almost completely surrounded by land that is in the city. Residents and business owners there could be enticed to request annexation with an offer of quicker police and fire responses, Montgomery said. An example of such an area is the Miller Road Shopping Center. Wilmington offered grants to ShopRite grocery store officials last year to get them to locate there, on the condition that the company would come into the city. Ultimately, Home Depot decided to locate on that land and remain in the county, Rago said. "Even if a change is made in the law, you still have to have a willing property owner," Montgomery said. From 1988 to 1998, three tracts along the Christina Riverfront were annexed by the city during the time the area was planned for redevelopment. State officials were behind the Riverfront project. Staff reporter Adam Taylor contributed to this article. Contact Chip Guy at 856-7373 or cguy@delawareonline.com. 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just wanted to throw in some information about annexing land. i believe the last time a large portion of land was annexed in wilmington was around 1910. the land that was annexed was along the delaware river, specifically cherry island and the surrounding area. this are was annexed because as wilmington's waterfront was reaching saturation, wilmington officials knew that not growing pretty much means letting other cities pass you by. so cherry island and the surrounding land was annexed so that a huge industrial park and port could be built on the delaware river. by putting these things on the delaware river, wilmington could begin to grow into a huge city like philadelphia. a port on the delaware would be much greater and would be able to handle more work than a port on the christina river. as for the industrial park, it would benefit because the delaware river had better accessibility, and so the accessibility would mean lower costs for businesses to ship goods (or send them by rail, which could've been done on the railroad that paralleled the christina and delaware rivers), which would mean lower overall costs, which would result in more successful businesses. alas, something went wrong (not sure what; no more funds, no commitment from businesses, or something like that; i will read up on it and find out again), and the industrial area never came to be.
just a little bit of wilmington history. |
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Yeah, that wasteland annexation I talked about may have helped the city in some ways. Besides the sewage crises experienced by Wilmington in the 'teens, that annexation did nothing in the way of significant business production, and/or residential increase.
Sure, Cherry Island developed into a mighty fine landfill. See how much farther Baltimore goes past their city grid into the slightly less-dense urban areas of their metros, and compare that with Wilmington's abrupt limits which extend practically no further than to where Ben Franklin designed our own city grid. Wilmington deserves to have claimed Richardson Park, Elsmere, Greenville, Edgemoor, and about half of New Castle as its own. Because of that, our population is still next to nothing. The city is still a minute blip on a national map instead of the regional location it should have been. |
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