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Old August 19th, 2016, 06:16 PM   #1
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Roads that end at a border without continuation in another country

Guys, I know a few roads that can be shown on Google Street View that have a quite low number(showing its importance) but stop abruptly at a border just without any continuation at another side. They don't have any obstacles on their way, except for maybe financing.
Could you show more than these two roads:
Droga Krajowa 63, Rudziszki(Węgorzewo), Warmińsko-Mazurskie, PL
Chepintsi, Smolyan region, BG
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Old August 19th, 2016, 06:55 PM   #2
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BR 282 Brazil/Argentina border

Brazilian side was completed but ruta 27 was an inaccessible dirty road until 2015

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Old August 19th, 2016, 10:20 PM   #3
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We have a few roads that cross the river without any bridge, or even a ferry.

See the road 741: https://goo.gl/maps/QEwv6KCUv8y
And then watch it on the Street View.

823: https://goo.gl/maps/6QiqivNELjw


By the way, who decides about how the European roads go? For example, the E75 roads from the south goes to Gdańsk in Poland, and then it's continued from Helsinki in Finland. Well, then there is probably a ferry connection from Gdańsk to Helsinki, right? No. Till 2009 there was no such connection at all, now there is a ferry from Gdynia (a city next to Gdańsk) to Helsinki - but E75 still ends at the ferry terminal in Gdańsk, not in Gdynia.

And there are signs in Gdańsk showing the way towards the ferry terminal as to Stockholm and... Helsinki: https://goo.gl/maps/KXny8w8Z19H2

The city names are crossed out, but it's because of the street renovation, not because of the lack of a ferry connection.

Although they corrected it once they finished the street renovation: https://goo.gl/maps/KdHEPhm17M72


Similarly E77. In theory there is a ferry from Gdańsk to Kaliningrad, but it doesn't exist. And those cities are also connected by the European road E28, which goes on the land. It doesn't make much sense at all to go from Gdańsk to Kaliningrad by ferry, even if it existed...

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Old August 19th, 2016, 11:05 PM   #4
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French RN 21 used to abruptly end at the top of Bujaruelo pass because the Spanish road (C-138, God knows which number would have now...) was never built.
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Old August 20th, 2016, 11:20 AM   #5
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We have a few roads that cross the river without any bridge, or even a ferry.

See the road 741: https://goo.gl/maps/QEwv6KCUv8y
And then watch it on the Street View.

823: https://goo.gl/maps/6QiqivNELjw
I meant the roads that end abruptly at some point not because of some water obstacle. DK63, for example, ends in a forest, which is Russia, not a river.
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Old August 21st, 2016, 07:18 AM   #6
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I meant the roads that end abruptly at some point not because of some water obstacle. DK63, for example, ends in a forest, which is Russia, not a river.
I recognise the Streetview picture from the Warmian-Masurian Voivodeship because I visited that exact spot about 10 years ago. Prior to 1945, it used to be German territory. Back in the old days, the road continued as it was part of a lively region that included several villages and towns. In the aftermath of the Second World War, the region was divided between Poland and the Soviet Union. The German population had either fled, been murdered or was expelled. Poland used the vacated properties to house Polish citizens that had been expelled from Polish territory that was now under control of the Soviets. On the other hand, the Soviets demolished anything that was left on their side of the border. If you look carefully on the satellite pictures, you can still see the traces of the civilisation that used to be there.
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Old August 21st, 2016, 10:16 AM   #7
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I don't think there are any examples in Australia (in between states) that fit the topic. However there are examples of where a highways changes importance across a state border and of dusty very rarely used tracks that stop at a border.
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Old August 21st, 2016, 10:55 AM   #8
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Do unusable roads without border checkpoints count too? In Hungary, we got plenty of those with Romania...













http://media.mandiner.hu/cikk/201504...chengeni_utjai

This is how such roads look like currently:

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Old August 21st, 2016, 02:07 PM   #9
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Sooner or later integration into Schengen has to happen, not today but since Romania and Bulgaria are growing economically there once will come a moment that populists in the west of Europe cannot defend why Hungary is in Schengen and Romania not.
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Old August 21st, 2016, 02:45 PM   #10
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Sooner or later integration into Schengen has to happen, not today but since Romania and Bulgaria are growing economically there once will come a moment that populists in the west of Europe cannot defend why Hungary is in Schengen and Romania not.
The 2015-16 migrant crisis is another big obstacle to the integration of Romania, Bulgaria and Croatia in the Schengen area.
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Old August 21st, 2016, 04:31 PM   #11
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Thats a scapegoat by our politicians driven by stupidity and/or factual errors: Schengen has absolutely nothing to do with the migrant crisis.
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Old August 21st, 2016, 04:59 PM   #12
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This is another road that's sitting unused waiting for Schengen

https://www.google.com/maps/place/%D...!6m1!1e1?hl=bg
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Old August 21st, 2016, 05:03 PM   #13
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Thats a scapegoat by our politicians driven by stupidity and/or factual errors: Schengen has absolutely nothing to do with the migrant crisis.
Yes, it has to do with migrant crisis, because, if Bulgaria and Romania join Schengen, there will be an uninterrupted uncontrolled overland route between Greece and Central Europe.
Croatia has the problem of the long and poorly patrolled border with BiH.
I'm not saying that RO, BG and HR should never join Schengen, but migrant issues and Schengen area are stricly related.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old August 21st, 2016, 05:12 PM   #14
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Yes, it has to do with migrant crisis, because, if Bulgaria and Romania join Schengen, there will be an uninterrupted uncontrolled overland route between Greece and Central Europe.
Croatia has the problem of the long and poorly patrolled border with BiH.
I'm not saying that RO, BG and HR should never join Schengen, but migrant issues and Schengen area are stricly related.
Yeah, and pointing fingers on Schengen was extremely funny when those very same politicians simultaneously waved them across the borders themselves. Heck, Austrian state railways even issued a statement how kind-hearted they were to ship all those migrants from Hungary to Germany. Great job ÖBB!

The problem lies at the external borders. However, there is one group of people you hit badly with abolishing Schengen: EU citizens crossing the borders legally. All other groups dont give a crap about borders.

Anyway, this is off-topic here, and also I am sick and tired of this topic myself. Western Europe went nuts in 2015 for good.
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Old August 21st, 2016, 05:29 PM   #15
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there is an uninterrupted uncontrolled overland route between Italy and Central Europe.
Fixed for you.
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Old August 21st, 2016, 05:47 PM   #16
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I think the best example of a road ending at a border is the Algerian A1 at the Moroccan border.

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Old August 21st, 2016, 06:19 PM   #17
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Yes, it has to do with migrant crisis, because, if Bulgaria and Romania join Schengen, there will be an uninterrupted uncontrolled overland route between Greece and Central Europe.
Croatia has the problem of the long and poorly patrolled border with BiH.
I'm not saying that RO, BG and HR should never join Schengen, but migrant issues and Schengen area are stricly related.
If Italy with its nonexistent border control and migrant flow is in Schengen, so can all over countries.
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Old August 21st, 2016, 06:32 PM   #18
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Do unusable roads without border checkpoints count too? In Hungary, we got plenty of those with Romania...









Well, yes and no. There is asphalt on the other side. It is passable provided we remove those plates.
In the case here: it fits
Btw Szarazberek and Garbolc - not really. The roads are paved on both sides, if we look from google earth Google earth
Omboly - Szaniszlo - dunno
The last - maybe... well. OK, it rather fits.
@Boltzman - is it functional there? I mean to at least the last interchange before border? If yes, perfect
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Old August 22nd, 2016, 01:45 PM   #19
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There is a road like that near Tula. There's no border but still, 2x2 highway just ends with no continuation and it stays this way for a decade now. There is a toll road nearby going the same direction and rumors say, its owners had a hand in halting construction of this one.


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Old August 22nd, 2016, 02:10 PM   #20
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Thanks for the example, but at least it should be the region border(область)
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