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Old April 22nd, 2004, 12:27 AM   #1
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Japan Mass Transit & Infrastructure 日本の公共交通機関とインフラ

hello i wonder if you can help me

is Tokyo/Osaka etc still building more elevated highways/freeways in the city centre?

would you think it has more elevated highways than Seoul or more/less

How many decks can they have above ground 2 or 3????

any photos would be nice
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Old April 23rd, 2004, 03:51 AM   #2
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Both cities have extensive freeway systems and are continually building extentions to them.

In Osaka its the Hanshin expressay that does the inner loops and lines.While in Tokyo im not sure.Maybe a few companies have expressways.The Tokyo Metropolitain expresswas is one of them.Considering Tokyo(32,000,000) is a much larger city than Soul and Osaka(13,000,000) is about the same size I would asume Tokyo's expressway system would be much larger.

Osaka has an elevated loop in the centre with about 6 branch expressways and a two other suburban loops linking the outer goverment expressways and the Hanshin harbour line expressway.
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Old April 23rd, 2004, 06:42 AM   #3
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I've always been fascinated by Japan's (Tokyo in particular) elevated freeways. I think they look really cool, but I've also wondered why they never built a lot of tunnels, considering the city is so dense above ground. Is it just a cost factor?
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Old April 23rd, 2004, 05:58 PM   #4
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Earthquakes Brizzy

Thats my possible theory
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Old April 23rd, 2004, 10:28 PM   #5
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I remember reading a long time ago that Tokyo was planning on building a massive underground highway but I'm not sure how that's going considering all the debt that would be accumulated, nor would could I imagine the possible highway tolls. They're already expensive as it is
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Old April 24th, 2004, 03:57 AM   #6
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@Nick: Seoul's metro population is 23,000,000
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Old April 27th, 2004, 08:23 PM   #7
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@Nick: Seoul's metro population is 23,000,000
No its not

Its around 10,000,000
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Old April 29th, 2004, 11:08 PM   #8
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What about this - Tokyo Bay Aqua Line. This goes under the sea.







 
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No its not

Its around 10,000,000
10 milion is only Seoul city proper.
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Japan's maglev train sets world record

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/asiapc...pan.maglev.ap/

Wednesday, December 3, 2003 Posted: 4:10 AM EST (0910 GMT)



TOKYO, Japan (AP) -- A magnetically levitated Japanese train has raced to a new record, topping its own previous best set just last month.

The experimental three-car maglev was carrying passengers when it set the world's top speed for a train, clocking at 581 kph (361 mph), Central Japan Railway Co., which is carrying out the experiments, said in a statement on Tuesday.

The train, which is controlled remotely, set the previous record of 570 kilometers per hour (353 miles per hour) at the 18.4-kilometer- (11.4-mile-) long test track in Yamanashi Prefecture (state), west of Tokyo, on November 19.

It also had hit a top speed of 579 kph (359 mph) with nobody aboard last month.

Maglev trains differ from conventional trains in that magnets lift them slightly off the track, eliminating speed-reducing friction and reducing noise.

The maglev is part of a government-financed project to develop faster trains for a country that is already home to some of the world's speediest.

Central Japan Railway Co., part of the former state-run railway, is jointly developing the maglev with Japan's Railway Technology Research Institute.

Germany has developed a maglev train that China has bought. The United States also is planning one.

Exhibition runs in Japan have been held for local residents and visiting dignitaries. But Central Japan Railway officials haven't said when they plan to commercialize the trains, which might replace the Shinkansen "bullet trains."

Japan's bullet trains run up to 300 kilometers per hour (186 miles per hour), and have reached speeds of 443 kph (275 mph) in test runs conducted in 1996. Those trains carry millions of Japanese between the country's major cities every year.

Engineers will continue to run the train at lower speeds to test its stability.

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Tokyo Bay Aqua Line looks so cool!!

i like Jamapn's highways anymore pics?
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Here's one I took a while ago. It's nothing special though.

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doulbe deckers!! very special to me
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Seoul-Incheon and Osaka-Kobe-Kyoto are quite similar in size at around 18,000,000 each.
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Old May 6th, 2004, 06:56 PM   #15
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Seoul-Incheon and Osaka-Kobe-Kyoto are quite similar in size at around 18,000,000 each.
Yeah.That sounds about right.I think Soul is a little bigger to be honest.But im not sure.Both are huge cities comparible to cities like New York and Greater London.

But not the likes of 'The never ending city' Tokyo
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Old May 13th, 2004, 04:32 PM   #16
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Hmmmmmmmmm

That Aqualine looks great.Next time im up in Tokyo I might fork out the 5000 Yen needed to ride it.

Ive been meaning to do the same with the Akashi Brigde near Osaka,linking Amwaji Island to Honshu.Originally it was a staggering 6000yen to cross.No one used it so they reduded it down to 4000Yen.Still F..cking expensive.Thats a about 40 US dollars for one bridge.The biggest in the world at this present time

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Old May 13th, 2004, 07:38 PM   #17
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They are also planing to build doubledeck highways in Holland, this will be the first european doubledeck higway, if not so it will be the longest.
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Old May 28th, 2004, 08:37 PM   #18
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does Sapporo or Sendai or any northern Japanese city have these elevated freeways, I think they are great, I have seen a photo of a three deck one n Tokyo, I hope Japanese governement arn't tearing them down like Seoul is for city beautification? I think that is bad build more of them I say.

Sapporo has been described as Texas with large out of town expressways and retail parks and big box shopping malls is this true any pics????
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It may be since Hokkaido is plenty of room for sprawl unlike Honshu or Kyushu.
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Marty, those are some sweet pics of that underwater highway.
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