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Old November 4th, 2016, 03:30 PM   #21
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Jerusalem Binyanei HaUma Railway Station





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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusa...ailway_Station
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Old November 4th, 2016, 03:33 PM   #22
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More info here: http://architect-online.com/the-deep...-to-the-world/
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Old November 6th, 2016, 12:18 PM   #23
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This is some pretty amazing engineering there. Obviously this station is also designed to function as a shelter as well, given how deepit is underground.

But the function as a shelter is not the actual reason why it is constructed that deep in the ground, is it? Is the reason the very hilly landscape of Jerusalem


I have found a concept trying to link the new terminal station with the old railway via a central rail tunnel. This is pure wishful thinking, is it? But it would be an incredible upgrade to both intercity rail and urban rail alike.
Have a look here: https://sites.google.com/site/jerusa...-the-next-step
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Old November 6th, 2016, 02:09 PM   #24
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this loop is not going to happen, however an extension towards the old city might. this extension would be the first step towards extending the railway to the jordanian border. obviously that's not going to happen very soon, as the territories would need to be crossed.
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Old November 8th, 2016, 08:07 PM   #25
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True, a connection to Jordania sounds interesting as well.

If people were a bit more flexible they could give the Jordanian Railways a concession to build a corridor through the Westbank, linking up to this railway. Israel could support that effort financially and operations could be somehow shared with the Jordanian railway taking over operation from Jerusalem onwords instead of the actual border. Border crossing rail operations are possible in Europe as well, so there is no technical reason why it should be possible there, is there?

I know, not gonna happen.
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Old November 8th, 2016, 08:44 PM   #26
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If a connexion to Jordania is ever to be built, it would be much easier to do it from Beit Shean and the new Valley railway. Much easier terrain, direct connexion to Haifa port, which is what should interest Jordanians most, and much less political problems as territories are not involved.

Remember the time when this country, not yet named Israël then, had rail relations with all its neigbours ?

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Cornerstone laid for Modi’in curve on Israel’s A1 link
Friday, March 17, 2017



A ceremony to mark the laying of the cornerstone for the Modi’in curve, a new 2.5km direct link between Modi’in and the new Jerusalem - Tel Aviv A1 Link, was held at Modi’in Outskirts station on March 14

The $US 90m project will offer a direct rail connection from Modi’in to Jerusalem for the first time. The curve will run north east from the A1 link to connect with the branch running southeast to Modi’in from Tel Aviv and is scheduled to be completed in the last quarter of 2019. The new link will offer a journey time of 17 minutes between Modi’in and Jerusalem, with two trains operating per hour per direction at peak times

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Old March 24th, 2017, 06:47 AM   #28
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Cornerstone laid for Modi’in curve on Israel’s A1 link
Friday, March 17, 2017



A ceremony to mark the laying of the cornerstone for the Modi’in curve, a new 2.5km direct link between Modi’in and the new Jerusalem - Tel Aviv A1 Link, was held at Modi’in Outskirts station on March 14

The $US 90m project will offer a direct rail connection from Modi’in to Jerusalem for the first time. The curve will run north east from the A1 link to connect with the branch running southeast to Modi’in from Tel Aviv and is scheduled to be completed in the last quarter of 2019. The new link will offer a journey time of 17 minutes between Modi’in and Jerusalem, with two trains operating per hour per direction at peak times

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Good news. Modín is a residential area, were you can find cheaper ( or less expensive) housing than in Tel aviv or the Gush Dan, is must be said that is a quite new city and most of his residents are secular jews from Jerusalem.
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Old March 28th, 2017, 04:35 PM   #29
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Is there any plans to have HSR to Beersheva and/or Eilat?
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Old April 5th, 2017, 02:12 AM   #30
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There are plans for an Eilat HSR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-s...ilway_to_Eilat

However, it is unlikely to be built any time soon in practice.
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There are plans for an Eilat HSR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-s...ilway_to_Eilat

However, it is unlikely to be built any time soon in practice.
Thanks. Seems like a good thing to make southern Israel more integrated and open up for investment.
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Old June 11th, 2017, 02:27 AM   #32
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Israel Railways published their strategic plan for 2040, and this includes an actual high-speed line between Haifa, Tel Aviv and Be'er Sheva. This plan is economical and makes a lot more sense than the Eilat HSR.

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http://www.globes.co.il/en/article-i...040-1001191770
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Old October 5th, 2017, 03:35 PM   #33
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Electrification High-Speed Railroad Tel Aviv - Jerusalem




Construction electrification portals on Tel Aviv - Jerusalem High-Speed Line.

The electrification of the new High-Speed railroad between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem over 56 km (35 miles) is making good progress.
Latrun will be the starting point where first tests with electric trains are expected on a section to Jerusalem.


On 16 September most electrification portals of this 1.2 km (0.75 miles) railway viaduct over the Valley of Ayalon near Latrun have been constructed.

Meanwhile also delivery of the new 62 Bombardier TRAXX electric locomotives is going fine.


Three locs underwent dynamic testing with Bombardier Twindexx double-deck coaches for acceptance tests during July 2017.

The first of 62 Electrical Locomotives arrived on August 28 in Israel and was then transported by rail to Israel Railways Kishon workshops.


Starting in 2018, the 62 Bombardier TRAXX electric locomotives will power the 369 Bombardier TWINDEXX Vario double-deck coaches.

Many of them will be used on the new High-Speed line Tel Aviv-Jerusalem which opens according to the planning in March 2018.
With a maximum speed of 160 km/h, the travelling time between Tel Aviv HaHagana and Jerusalem will be reduced from 75 to 28 minutes.
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Old October 6th, 2017, 10:40 PM   #34
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The new Tel-Aviv-Jerusalem line is not a high speed line, since the maximum speed will be only 160 kilometers per hour.
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Compared to the rest of the network it is. Anyhow 160 km/h is really sufficient for this short journey.
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Compared to the rest of the network it is.
Then it is a 'higher speed line', not a 'High-Speed line'.
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The new Tel-Aviv-Jerusalem line is not a high speed line, since the maximum speed will be only 160 kilometers per hour.
You may take the definition you like for High-Speed Railroad. IMO it is pretty subjective. However, it is a common practice in many countries to call a railroad with a maximum speed of 160 km/h a High-Speed railroad.

E.g: In Germany, High-Speed Lines Hanover-Berlin and Nuremberg-München have many sections with speed 160 km/h.
Check it out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-s...ail_in_Germany

High-Speed Line South in the Netherlands is a 125 km (78 mi) high-speed railway line. Services running at 160 km/h (100 mph) began on 7 September 2009 between Amsterdam and Rotterdam. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-s...he_Netherlands




Note that the electric locomotive on High-speed Railway in the Netherlands is a Bombardier TRAXX, the same as on the new railroad Tel Aviv - Jerusalem.
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Then it is a 'higher speed line', not a 'High-Speed line'.
According to what definition? "High speed" is not exactly the sound barrier, is it?
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I can only say that in the Netherlands we do not call the IC direct your see in the picture above a real high speed train. It is running on a high speed railway though, capable of 300kmh.
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E.g: In Germany, High-Speed Lines Hanover-Berlin and Nuremberg-München have many sections with speed 160 km/h.
Check it out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-s...ail_in_Germany
Don't know that line, but are parts of it at higher speeds than that?

edit: looked it up. Hanover-Berlin is partially new line, 250 km/h on the new section, 160 and 200 km/h on the existing sections.
Nuremberg–Munich is partially new line, 300 km/h on the new part, 160 and 200 km/h on the existing section.

Notice how both have big stretches that go significantly faster than 160 km/h?
NOBODY calls the 160 km/h stretches of those line "High-speed".

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High-Speed Line South in the Netherlands is a 125 km (78 mi) high-speed railway line. Services running at 160 km/h (100 mph) began on 7 September 2009 between Amsterdam and Rotterdam. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-s...he_Netherlands




Note that the electric locomotive on High-speed Railway in the Netherlands is a Bombardier TRAXX, the same as on the new railroad Tel Aviv - Jerusalem.
The line in The Netherlands is literally a 300 km/h line, thus High-Speed.

160 km/h is NOT considered High-Speed anywhere.

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