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Old May 31st, 2009, 08:24 AM   #3841
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Old May 31st, 2009, 08:28 AM   #3842
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Records can be chaotic. There's been a debate on which ASEAN city is bigger whether its Jakarta or Manila.

Some stats state Manila is bigger than Jakarta. Emporis is one example. Manila's metro area is huge and it stretches beyond the M.M. area

As for Singapore, it's more a city-state than a country.

South East Asia is not just the most comptitive not just people but skyline. Its more the whole Asian region. SEA is just one of them. In China alone cities construct more skyscrapers and supertalls. Even minor cities in The Mainland get its share like Wuhan for example.

There's also in India and in The Middle East. Its not just Dubai but also Kuwait, Doha and more.
Jabodetabek = 23.3 million
Mega Manila (includes the provinces of Bulacan, Cavite, Laguna and Rizal) = 22 million.
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Old May 31st, 2009, 09:28 AM   #3843
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Jabodetabek = 23.3 million
Mega Manila (includes the provinces of Bulacan, Cavite, Laguna and Rizal) = 22 million.
Pampanga should be included since its already forming a large urban area and an economic zone. Plus that's where the international airport will soon be located. There's also Batangas. Include both and it will pass Jabodetabek's population
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Old May 31st, 2009, 10:27 AM   #3844
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Pampanga should be included since its already forming a large urban area and an economic zone. Plus that's where the international airport will soon be located. There's also Batangas. Include both and it will pass Jabodetabek's population
Mega Manila = 21,994,694

Pampanga = 1,911,951

Batangas = 2,245,869

Mega Manila total = 26,152,514

it surpass Jabodetabek's population.
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Old May 31st, 2009, 10:56 AM   #3845
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Well he can **** right off then.
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Old May 31st, 2009, 11:02 AM   #3846
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my feelings on East Asia:
1. Tokyo is sooo technologically futuristic, freakin expensive...
2. HK is the real King of City, loved the Orient
3. Shanghai is where you feel the "future"
4. Singapore has the factor to do "clean" business
5. Shenzhen is where money can buy everything
6. Bangkok skyline is sooo massive, a typical Asian wonderland....
7. Makati is like in America
8. Taipei reminds me of triads, family dynasties and sexy girls
9. Seoul is where I get bored of Samsung - everywhere is that
10. Kuala Lumpur seems to have 3 sticks in the skyline

1. KUALA LUMPUR - Malaysia's business hub

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Kuala Lumpur or simply known as KL is maturing as a top business city for emerging markets, especially in foreign equities and investments within Asia Pacific.

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2008 finds Kuala Lumpur with an increasingly tight supply of Grade A office buildings, primarily due to a continued heightened interest from foreign investors.

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REITS and other private equity groups, primarily from Singapore and the Middle East, make up the bulk of investors. Singaporeans and Middle Easterners have both invested heavily into Malaysian property funds including the Injaz AsiaEquity Property fund, which was listed only last year.

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The overriding opinion is that the KL real estate market continues to adequately absorb the incoming supply and a situation of oversupply and saturation is only visible in the short term for the residential market.

Approximately 3,000 residences added to the already 6,000 units will come online during the next two years.

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In early 2008, Germany's largest real estate group, Union Investment Real Estate AG made its first Malaysian real estate purchase in downtown KL. The company’s first investments in Asia were made only in 2006 with the acquisition of two properties in South Korea and a successful year 2007 with several investments in Japan and Singapore.

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"It's going to be another year of pain. Asia is in for a fairly lean spell," said Stuart Labrooy, chief executive at real estate investment trust Axis-REIT in Kuala Lumpur. He predicts that Asian property values will probably bottom by the end of the year but may not start to rise again until the economies in the US and Europe have consistent growth.

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In the meantime, KL has a fairly large amount of both active and stalled construction sites. As demand picks up, more and more skyscrapers will be built, that's for sure.

Note:
- Malaysian REITs were launched after the success of REITs in Japan, Hong Kong and Singapore. These large funds will continue to boost the real estate market, thus creating more businesses, in particular more buildings for the skyline.
- Pavilion KL has won the FIABCI World's Best Shopping Centre in 2009.


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2. PUTRAJAYA
Characteristics: (sorry if there's not much skyline)
- 45km south of KL is Malaysia's seat of government, or administative capital
- Inspired by Canberra, Washington DC and Islamabad


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3. GEORGETOWN, PENANG - northern Malaysian metropolis
Characteristics:
- Where Intel, Dell and Motorola mixed well with UNESCO Heritage
- East meets West, tradition meets modernity
- Miami, Gold Coast or Pattaya of Malaysia

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4. ISKANDAR MALAYSIA - southern Malaysian metropolis
Characteristics:
- Upcoming Malaysian metropolis neighbouring Singapore
- Inspired by Shenzhen Economic Zone and Dubai


Iskandar Financial District - Malaysia's future financial city

Check out all the metropolis plans at
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=475583
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Old May 31st, 2009, 12:01 PM   #3847
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i dunno what's wrong to forumer SECAUNDI?

why does he have to enumerate those population statistics of manila etc..
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Old May 31st, 2009, 12:22 PM   #3848
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Old May 31st, 2009, 03:10 PM   #3849
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Jabodetabek = 23.3 million
Mega Manila (includes the provinces of Bulacan, Cavite, Laguna and Rizal) = 22 million.
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Mega Manila = 21,994,694
Pampanga = 1,911,951
Batangas = 2,245,869
Mega Manila total = 26,152,514
it surpass Jabodetabek's population.
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Records can be chaotic. There's been a debate on which ASEAN city is bigger whether its Jakarta or Manila.

Some stats state Manila is bigger than Jakarta. Emporis is one example. Manila's metro area is huge and it stretches beyond the M.M. area
i don't it is important for a race of 'which city is bigger' by population of regional municipals. and i don't see any good reason to include some small-tiny municipal which rather look like backward-poor kampung(village).

the most crucial thing that we should ask is...do those peoples in the 'mega-metro' enjoyed/benifited by city's wealth?
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Old May 31st, 2009, 03:39 PM   #3850
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3. GEORGETOWN, PENANG - northern Malaysian metropolis

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as you can see the land reclamation down there. this is what they going to build...'THE LIGHT'. plus highrise condo projects here and there in penang, soon penang's skyline going to be comparable to major asian cities.

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a good addition to Penang cityscape....
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Old May 31st, 2009, 04:19 PM   #3851
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every city have a progressing projects...

talk about Asia, hmmm... the best:
1. Tokyo,
2. Hongkong,
3. Shanghai,
4. Seoul,
5. Jakarta,
6. Manila,
7. Bangkok,
8. Dubai,
9. Shenzen,
10. Singapore..................................
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Old May 31st, 2009, 04:23 PM   #3852
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Mega Manila = 21,994,694

Pampanga = 1,911,951

Batangas = 2,245,869

Mega Manila total = 26,152,514

it surpass Jabodetabek's population.


Is it that good having a massive population in one tiny city??? i just don't understand why SEA ppl have to compete against one another??? showing off that my city is better than urs....

as far as i concern...Manila and Jakarta have a about the same number of ppl...don't they?? come on u guys.....having more ppl in the city will only caused problems becasue most of the infrastructure in SEA is not that well developed or even insufficient......just take a look at the healthcare system in ur country....u'll see the problems


and being modern is not just who have a better skyline or who got the most fancy building out there man....it's about the living standard or ur own ppl

look at all EU countries...they dun have to have such a massive skyline! but why they are sooo developed!! that's why SEA will never be able to compete with other parts of the world!!

(Singapore is an exception here ok!!)
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Old May 31st, 2009, 04:58 PM   #3853
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exactly!!! i hate it when it is too crowdy. penang is booming. good.
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Old May 31st, 2009, 05:58 PM   #3854
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Old June 1st, 2009, 05:50 AM   #3855
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i don't it is important for a race of 'which city is bigger' by population of regional municipals. and i don't see any good reason to include some small-tiny municipal which rather look like backward-poor kampung(village).

the most crucial thing that we should ask is...do those peoples in the 'mega-metro' enjoyed/benifited by city's wealth?
Very true. Though I felt this thing when I was in LA. LA is a big city and alot of those coming from small towns or mid-size cities move there for better opportunities whether they're from US, Canada or Mexico.

Alot of Angelenos I've met were surprised when I told them I was from HK and I showed them pics of my city especially the skyline. They thought HK is as large as LA since since our city is dense and had alot of skyscrapers.

Another, I read a novel how a girl from a small town in Texas got surprised when she visited Mexico City and its size. If I was to visit Mexico City, I wouldn't feel surprised since I grew up in the city and used to urban life.
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Old June 1st, 2009, 07:31 AM   #3856
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my feelings on East Asia:
1. Tokyo is sooo technologically futuristic, freakin expensive...
2. HK is the real King of City, loved the Orient
3. Shanghai is where you feel the "future"
4. Singapore has the factor to do "clean" business
5. Shenzhen is where money can buy everything
6. Bangkok skyline is sooo massive, a typical Asian wonderland....
7. Makati is like in America
8. Taipei reminds me of triads, family dynasties and sexy girls
9. Seoul is where I get bored of Samsung - everywhere is that
10. Kuala Lumpur seems to have 3 sticks in the skyline
Love your analysis
Especially Shenzhen, money is king there.
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Old June 1st, 2009, 08:27 AM   #3857
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my feelings on East Asia:
1. Tokyo is sooo technologically futuristic, freakin expensive...
2. HK is the real King of City, loved the Orient
3. Shanghai is where you feel the "future"
4. Singapore has the factor to do "clean" business
5. Shenzhen is where money can buy everything
6. Bangkok skyline is sooo massive, a typical Asian wonderland....
7. Makati is like in America
8. Taipei reminds me of triads, family dynasties and sexy girls
9. Seoul is where I get bored of Samsung - everywhere is that
10. Kuala Lumpur seems to have 3 sticks in the skyline
upcoming KL will have additional 2 sticks - 4 season and Lot C..

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Old June 1st, 2009, 09:12 AM   #3858
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i don't it is important for a race of 'which city is bigger' by population of regional municipals. and i don't see any good reason to include some small-tiny municipal which rather look like backward-poor kampung(village).

the most crucial thing that we should ask is...do those peoples in the 'mega-metro' enjoyed/benifited by city's wealth?
I agree. I don't like this Mega Manila thing...it is only used by Filipino marketing in their sales drive...but it is not politically correct to categorize and show it here in Skyscrapercity. We're talking of Skylines here....why should we include the other cities outside Metro Manila? Do they have skyline to boast of? As far as I know, they're mostly the industrial estates, economic zones, etc. and the usual kampung or rural atmosphere except for few cities.
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Old June 1st, 2009, 11:29 AM   #3859
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