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Old June 4th, 2009, 05:23 AM   #3901
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Sometime I find within some Asian cities are commerical/office developments are within rail or subway lines. HK is one perfect example. Commercial Developments are within the path of The MTR except the northern section Wan Chai.
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Old June 4th, 2009, 07:35 AM   #3902
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Old June 4th, 2009, 09:06 AM   #3903
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That 6 lane highway ironically doesn't pass through Manila

Anyway what I meant of a unifying element is to have these so called cities under Manila instead of being separate cities competing for each other.
I think he is referring to highways that traverse several cities in M. Manila like EDSA, Skyway, South Superhighway, C5.

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All cities in ASEAN (SEA) are developing cities for the respective developing countries (except Singapore). As such there are many good as well as bad points for each of those cities.

KL itself is quite small in terms of population mass because almost every local stay miles away from the city. KL city itelf have very little middle class housing (mostly high-end housing), it's hard to find someone who lives above his shop in KL city like in HK. According to Emporis, KL has only 1,800,674 people in the city areas.

With its smaller population and yet KL manages to attract a large chunk of FDIs in SEA proves that it can achieve its vision to be a major city in Asia. Because of its proximity to the Straits of Malacca trading route (the world's busiest), KL today is home to SEA's 2nd best/largest in most economic indicators such as connectivity (port and airport), equity (stock market with 1000 companies listed, financial hub, investment banking), procurement, etc.

It is all these factors that will contribute to the development of the city, the infrastructure growth and of course the skyline as more demand for office space and housing for expatriates. But wonderfully the growth of KL is scatterred across the metropolitan areas, imagine having big company's highrise hq (such as BMW, Ericsson, IBM, Nestle, Deloitte, KPMG) at lowrise housing townships miles away from the city.

Anyway, I believe the most important thing is that all Asian cities must grow co-operatively with other Asian cities, and grow in a balanced way so that the lives of its residents will be improved to Western standards. One thing for sure is that KL is lacking in public transportation, maintenance, history/culture attractions....

(When writing the above I realised that a skyline grows in tandem with the city's activity in TRADE/PORTS??? Not sure.)
There's no doubt to that - KL has really improved in terms of infrastructures, skyline, economy. For non-Malaysians, or many Pinoys think that Mahathir did a great job in achieving these things. Sorry to those who don't like him.

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having too many municipal council may have some pros and cons. the pros (which suppose to be); efficiency in term of services, maintainence and social welfare.

while the cons; overlapping of laws and regulations among those authorities which may delay some developments.

i agree that rather competing, those cities better completing each other.
I agree. During Marcos time, we used to have a governor of Metro Manila - the wife of the former President, no other than the Queen of shoes, Imelda Marcos unfortunately, it was abolished after the People Power in 1986 and replaced with Metro Manila Development Authority based in Makati City. This agency has limited controls over the cities since they have their own ordinances or laws. This contributed to bickering among the mayors, the usual politicians...

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You clearly didn't understand what WANCH was saying. Unifying element means one government for the whole Metro Manila as in having one governor instead having to many mayors and transforming the cities into districts.

Manila is not Tokyo so no need to mention about it. We have a different situation in this city and country. And a city doesn't have to fulfill all those just to be called 'unified'.

"Manila can be Tokyo-like city. but they need to fulfill the above requirement. that's my opinion..."-Did WANCH say that? It only came from you. You just made a subtle attack to Manila.
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1) when i was mentioning Tokyo, i was referring to its streetlife as it is the main issue there. not the city structure.

2) i have no intention of 'subtle attack to manila'. i was just giving my personal point of views after what i've seen in manila. i was talking with WANCH about streetlife inside the city, and i hope you understand the topic that we've been discussed. if you think Manila is a very sensitive subject here, then i apologize and promise not to mention anything about Manila. Thank you.
Tokyo is incomparable to Manila, KL, Singapore, Jakarta, etc. ...everyone knows that...
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Old June 4th, 2009, 10:13 AM   #3904
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1) when i was mentioning Tokyo, i was referring to its streetlife as it is the main issue there. not the city structure.

2) i have no intention of 'subtle attack to manila'. i was just giving my personal point of views after what i've seen in manila. i was talking with WANCH about streetlife inside the city, and i hope you understand the topic that we've been discussed. if you think Manila is a very sensitive subject here, then i apologize and promise not to mention anything about Manila. Thank you.
Oh well. I was following all the posts here and I still couldn't understand why 'fulfilling those requirements of a Tokyo-like city' and 'having an excellent transportation' were mentioned while you were already talking about having a unifying element. Sorry, I wasn't able to see the connection of your post to streetlife. Anyway, it's already settled.
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Old June 4th, 2009, 12:13 PM   #3905
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nazrey, that's double post.
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Old June 4th, 2009, 04:30 PM   #3906
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Old June 4th, 2009, 04:47 PM   #3907
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Tokyo is incomparable to Manila, KL, Singapore, Jakarta, etc. ...everyone knows that...
obviously no SEA cities are comparable to Jap/Kor cities
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Old June 4th, 2009, 04:54 PM   #3908
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TOTALLY AGREE
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Old June 4th, 2009, 10:47 PM   #3909
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Manila seems to be a bif topic here......seems like a lot of people don't really like Manila?? whyyy???
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Old June 5th, 2009, 03:30 AM   #3910
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Manila seems to be a bif topic here......seems like a lot of people don't really like Manila?? whyyy???
I don't find anything wrong with Manila. Its one of the coolest cities in Asia especially nightlife.
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Old June 5th, 2009, 03:31 AM   #3911
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Oh well. I was following all the posts here and I still couldn't understand why 'fulfilling those requirements of a Tokyo-like city' and 'having an excellent transportation' were mentioned while you were already talking about having a unifying element. Sorry, I wasn't able to see the connection of your post to streetlife. Anyway, it's already settled.
Transportation is not the subject between Manila and Tokyo but how the city should be organized especially its districts.
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Old June 5th, 2009, 05:55 AM   #3912
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TOTALLY AGREE
Honestly I don't think we should still be having this thread. The title of World's Best Skyline is always a toss between NY and HK and I wonder why in Asian perspective people are still arguing about it. It's so sad that such pointless discussion magnets the most annoying arguments SSCers can post.

Hong Kong is king, deal with it!
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Old June 5th, 2009, 07:36 AM   #3913
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NO! unless you make TOKYO as king ad HK as queen
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Old June 5th, 2009, 08:07 AM   #3914
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NO! unless you make TOKYO as king ad HK as queen
Skyline-wise, HK is still king!
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Old June 5th, 2009, 12:40 PM   #3915
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Old June 6th, 2009, 06:24 AM   #3917
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@ Bernerd,
You got a sharp instinct, it's always been underrated Well I can't say anything, pls try to visit this country, nothings wrong with it. Bangkok is very nice in that picture, so massive...
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