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Old October 10th, 2006, 06:12 AM   #601
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Old October 10th, 2006, 07:14 AM   #602
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Tokyo, Taipei, Seoul, and Shanghai all have neon signs hanging above their streets, but they follow different patterns.

There have been a lot of struggles with renovating the old Chinese-style tenements on HK Island. Wan Chai is preserving a few as part of the Johnston Road redevelopment, but Wedding Card Street will have to go. Meanwhile, many of the older tenements in the Sheung Wan and Western areas are also going to be redeveloped.
These cities may have their signs but they're not as dangling as HK where the signs are hanging over the road.



Unfortunately for Sheung Wan and The Western District, these areas aren't major tourist spots and most developers would mind for redevelopment.

It's said that alot of these buildings will be gone instead of preserving most of them at least renovating the inside.

As for Shanghai, alot of construction.
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Old October 10th, 2006, 07:31 AM   #603
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These cities may have their signs but they're not as dangling as HK where the signs are hanging over the road.

Unfortunately for Sheung Wan and The Western District, these areas aren't major tourist spots and most developers would mind for redevelopment.

It's said that alot of these buildings will be gone instead of preserving most of them at least renovating the inside.

As for Shanghai, alot of construction.
The concept is still the same. Neon advertising above the streets is not something unique to Hong Kong. Other cities do it differently but the format and purpose are identical across the region.

In fact, the way they do it in Tokyo, Seoul, Taipei, etc. is unique in their own way that Hong Kong doesn't have.

Hong Kong's redevelopment projects in recent years have not been geared towards tourist spots. The focus has always been on prioritized areas where the buildings have aged beyond mere renovation. For a lot of the older buildings (ie. pre-WW2), even plumbing is a problem, so it's not as simple as a simple interior renovation.
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Old October 10th, 2006, 08:10 AM   #604
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The concept is still the same. Neon advertising above the streets is not something unique to Hong Kong. Other cities do it differently but the format and purpose are identical across the region.

In fact, the way they do it in Tokyo, Seoul, Taipei, etc. is unique in their own way that Hong Kong doesn't have.

Hong Kong's redevelopment projects in recent years have not been geared towards tourist spots. The focus has always been on prioritized areas where the buildings have aged beyond mere renovation. For a lot of the older buildings (ie. pre-WW2), even plumbing is a problem, so it's not as simple as a simple interior renovation.
As with HK's neon signs, true that is not unique. But one thing after 2001, alot of neon signs have been animated compared to those during the late 90s or before.
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Old October 10th, 2006, 09:56 AM   #605
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Old October 11th, 2006, 01:53 AM   #607
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As with HK's neon signs, true that is not unique. But one thing after 2001, alot of neon signs have been animated compared to those during the late 90s or before.
It's just a shift in marketing strategy. Animated neon is not solely unique to Hong Kong either, but rather the scale is much bigger in Hong Kong, such as Cheung Kong Center and The Centre. However, at the consumer level, I don't notice that many animated neon ads. They're still a minority rather than the norm.
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Old October 11th, 2006, 03:40 AM   #608
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^ I love that view (especially at night) but it's not a recent photo right?
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It's just a shift in marketing strategy. Animated neon is not solely unique to Hong Kong either, but rather the scale is much bigger in Hong Kong, such as Cheung Kong Center and The Centre. However, at the consumer level, I don't notice that many animated neon ads. They're still a minority rather than the norm.
I look at it differently cause I see alot of them in Causeway Bay, Tsim Sha Tsui or Mongkok.
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Old October 11th, 2006, 07:11 AM   #611
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I look at it differently cause I see alot of them in Causeway Bay, Tsim Sha Tsui or Mongkok.
I see a lot of them at Times Square and Piccadilly Circus as well. It's an international trend.
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^ I love that view (especially at night) but it's not a recent photo right?
It was taken this year. Not too recently though.
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I see a lot of them at Times Square and Piccadilly Circus as well. It's an international trend.
It's everywhere but the concentration of animated neon in HK and other East Asian cities is greater.
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Old October 11th, 2006, 07:37 AM   #614
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It's everywhere but the concentration of animated neon in HK and other East Asian cities is greater.
I'm not too sure about that. Animated neon is still not commonplace whereas I see a lot more of it in places such as Vegas. For such a small city, they have a lot of moving neon lights. Even Tokyo, Seoul, Taipei, and Shanghai don't have that much animated neon, but a lot more of the traditional kind.
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I'm not too sure about that. Animated neon is still not commonplace whereas I see a lot more of it in places such as Vegas. For such a small city, they have a lot of moving neon lights. Even Tokyo, Seoul, Taipei, and Shanghai don't have that much animated neon, but a lot more of the traditional kind.
True about Vegas and even cities like Reno. But most of Vegas' neon is concentrated in the city centre whether it's in The Strip or Downtown.
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True about Vegas and even cities like Reno. But most of Vegas' neon is concentrated in the city centre whether it's in The Strip or Downtown.
Hong Kong's ad neon is not concentrated in the city centre. Mongkok and Causeway Bay are not city centre areas like Central. In fact, Central and Admiralty are fairly clean of these things. Even the commercial areas of Wan Chai are clean of them as well.



@Ten : Where were those photos taken? Lumphini Park?
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Hong Kong's ad neon is not concentrated in the city centre. Mongkok and Causeway Bay are not city centre areas like Central. In fact, Central and Admiralty are fairly clean of these things. Even the commercial areas of Wan Chai are clean of them as well.



@Ten : Where were those photos taken? Lumphini Park?
But these are commercial areas and it wouldn't be a good idea to see neon signs except on top of buildings kinda like those in Wan Chai.

Admiralty is clean of neon but some parts of Central like Lan Kwai Fong and Hollywood Rd. have some concentrations of neon.

As for Wan Chai, the commericial area are neon free but if you in the heart of the district, there are alot of them.
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But these are commercial areas and it wouldn't be a good idea to see neon signs except on top of buildings kinda like those in Wan Chai.

Admiralty is clean of neon but some parts of Central like Lan Kwai Fong and Hollywood Rd. have some concentrations of neon.

As for Wan Chai, the commericial area are neon free but if you in the heart of the district, there are alot of them.
Hollywood Road is an antiques district. Where is the neon? It doesn't make sense to have that commercialism there when there are no bars and stores close after office hours.

Lan Kwai Fong is surrounded by residentials. In fact, residentials outnumber commercial establishments. The offices in the skyscrapers are further downhill. Even then, Lan Kwai Fong is just a block of bars, hardly representative of the entire Central district.

There is a big difference between commercial areas as in offices and commercial areas as in retail. That is clearly why Central, Admiralty, and Wan Chai's office districts have very little neon ads. Even within Wan Chai's older areas, there is just one road that has some neon (along the tram line). All the others don't have them.
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