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Old December 4th, 2006, 01:47 PM   #881
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i never know shanghai has how many skyscrpaers on earth. some dates said 299, some said 400. how much the hell is the accurate answer?
shanghai and hongkong must be 1 or 2. i cant choose. other cities in asia cant match this line up.
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Old December 4th, 2006, 02:14 PM   #882
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when you look at google earth carefuly, you'll find dubai cant compare with hongkong now. as for future i dont know, but it's a long way behind hongkong by skyscrapers aspects in 2006. i do like dubai's skyscrapers, who wont like over 700M SKYSCRAPER? but hongkong is far far dense than dubai.
on my opinion, only 5 cities are the 1st group in skyscrapers(based on google earth)
HK, NYC, shanghai, chicago, san poulo.
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Old December 4th, 2006, 02:35 PM   #883
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But still its not fair ! Supertall Density must be divided by the number of population !

Dubai, with only 300K + population wins the game !
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Old December 4th, 2006, 02:41 PM   #884
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But still its not fair ! Supertall Density must be divided by the number of population !

Dubai, with only 300K + population wins the game !
i know. huge skyline needs huge population. when those skyscrapers finished, dubai's population will grow up fastly, at that time, can compair or over hongkong. good luck ,dubai, i'd like to see another miracle of the world, dubai miracle.
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Old December 4th, 2006, 02:59 PM   #885
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Yes it's still Puxi but from the looks of it, they're trying to make Pudong as the city's premier CBD or financial district.
What they're trying to do vs. what reality beholds are two very different things. The centre of commercial activity will still remain in Puxi in the meantime. It'll take a lot more in Pudong to shift it away.
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Old December 4th, 2006, 03:04 PM   #886
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The best city skyline in terms of QUANTITY is Hong Kong

In terms of QUALITY it`s Dubai, Abu Dhabi or any Japanese cities.

Because many many many buildings in Hong Kong are very dirty and depressing

IMHO Overall I think Dubai is far better place to live compared to Hong Kong.
Dubai is still a construction site. In terms of quality of life, they're not among the top in international surveys. How are they doing in the Mercer surveys?

In terms of quality, I look at sustainable development designs in buildings. How is Dubai progressing in that field?
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Old December 4th, 2006, 03:09 PM   #887
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KL I think has around 5 million in it's metro area. HK has around 7 to 8 million and it's not even considered a megalopolis. But if you talk about The Pearl River Delta which includes HK, Macau, Guangzhou, Shenzhen and Dongguan, you have around 35 to 40 million people.

Off topic but yes it's wack that I don't know Malay cause my mom never taught me. And I had more Filipino friends than Malaysian friends. Also there are more Filipinos in HK than Malaysians since they happen to be the largest minority group in the city.
I don't understand why anyone is trying to compare Hong Kong's skyline using the Pearl River Delta's population. The two are separate economies and Hong Kong's skyline is not really under construction due to economic growth in the mainland. In fact, Hong Kong's skyscraper construction lately caters for multinationals that are expanding locally as a North Asia or Asia Pacific hub. While there is a real estate bubble in China and construction is slowing, numerous large projects are still under way in Hong Kong. The reverse is probably more true since so much Hong Kong money is invested in mainland real estate.

Kuala Lumpur has the luxury of space, and can expand out a bit more. However, they still have a fairly dense downtown with less tall buildings. Nevertheless, they have quite a number of very nice structures. The engineering that went into Petronas was quite challenging, and very worthy of mention in architecture texts.
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Dubai and Abu Dhabi are more well-ordered than HK, with clean roads, systematic highways, high-quality buildings. There are old buildings but they are well-restored unlike in Hong Kong.
Dubai's development took off about a decade ago, while Hong Kong went through the same about 30 years ago. Hence, HK has a far larger stock of older buildings whereas so much of Dubai is new. HK is also far humid due to its geographic location, hence the aging process is much faster. However, does that affect the quality of the buildings? HK exteriors may look dirtier due to the humidity and pollution, but structurally they are still sound. Highcliff's dampers still work even if its windows need cleaning. Central Plaza's neon lights still come on at night even though its residential neighbors need a new paint job.

In another 30 years the aging problem will become more evident in Dubai as the current UC projects finish.
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Old December 4th, 2006, 08:02 PM   #889
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Old December 5th, 2006, 04:58 AM   #890
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Kuala Lumpur Structure Plan 2020 source : http://www.dbkl.gov.my/pskl2020/english/index.htm

Proposed building height zone in the city centre



current/future development of KL would be focus/aim on density with a highrise restriction in order to create a stunning n beutiful clustering focal points.




Proposed pedestrian linkages in the city centre

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when you look at google earth carefuly, you'll find dubai cant compare with hongkong now. as for future i dont know, but it's a long way behind hongkong by skyscrapers aspects in 2006. i do like dubai's skyscrapers, who wont like over 700M SKYSCRAPER? but hongkong is far far dense than dubai.
on my opinion, only 5 cities are the 1st group in skyscrapers(based on google earth)
HK, NYC, shanghai, chicago, san poulo.
In the case of Sao Paulo, yes they have a high density and a large quantity of skyscrapers but they lack height. They also lack a world recognized scraper.
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i never know shanghai has how many skyscrpaers on earth. some dates said 299, some said 400. how much the hell is the accurate answer?
shanghai and hongkong must be 1 or 2. i cant choose. other cities in asia cant match this line up.
Between HK and Shanghai, I would put HK as no.1 and Shanghai as no.2.

Please check this out

http://homepages.ipact.nl/~egram/skylines.html
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Old December 6th, 2006, 05:55 AM   #894
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Between HK and Shanghai, I would put HK as no.1 and Shanghai as no.2.

Please check this out

http://homepages.ipact.nl/~egram/skylines.html
i never believe those dates, i have seen 10 versions quite different.
tokyo has more buildings over 90M than shanghai? that's impossible.
anyway,it's a good websites. thanks.
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i never believe those dates, i have seen 10 versions quite different.
tokyo has more buildings over 90M than shanghai? that's impossible.
anyway,it's a good websites. thanks.
I believe that since the city has alot of skyscrapers and developments though are not as tall as the ones in HK or Shanghai.
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i never believe those dates, i have seen 10 versions quite different.
tokyo has more buildings over 90M than shanghai? that's impossible.
anyway,it's a good websites. thanks.
I'm curious where the data comes from as well. I don't think there is yet a reliable site that has comprehensive building data across cities.
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I think some of it is from Emporis
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I think some of it is from Emporis
Emporis is known to have incomplete data for many cities, although it is the best of what is out there. On the other hand, I wouldn't want to base any conclusions on an unreliable source, even though it is the best source out there right now.
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Yes I believe that since I was trying to find info on this scraper and I can't find it
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