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Old April 2nd, 2007, 11:14 AM   #1421
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And HK is famous for it's bay anyway, so I don't think they'll replace that for buildings.
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Old April 2nd, 2007, 11:35 AM   #1422
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And HK is famous for it's bay anyway, so I don't think they'll replace that for buildings.
You mean harbour That's what Hong Kong means, "fragrant harbour". Sadly, HK's harbour is slowly shrinking because of land reclamations especially along the waterfronts.
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Old April 2nd, 2007, 04:14 PM   #1423
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Land reclamation is by far the easiest way for Hong Kong to find usable land for buildings. Not only are there projects in Victoria Harbour, there are also recent projects for Disneyland and a number of new suburbs (Tseung Kwan O, Shatin, etc.). There are now more restrictions when reclaimibg the main harbour, thanks to a growing citizen movement to save whatever is left.
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Old April 2nd, 2007, 10:46 PM   #1424
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hongkong is the best skyline in asia followed by south east asian cities then the last one will be dubai.
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Old April 2nd, 2007, 11:04 PM   #1425
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dubai is last?
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Old April 2nd, 2007, 11:15 PM   #1426
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i mean third

1. hongkong
2. s.e. asian cities
3. dubai- although they have supertalls, dubai is not that massive compared to the mentioned cities
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Old April 2nd, 2007, 11:28 PM   #1427
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Old April 3rd, 2007, 04:48 AM   #1428
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This pic was taken on Sunday which most of offices closed, so some office towers looked dark. The left part of pic (Mega Kuningan area) looks whitish caused by strong lighting of football stadium that came from below.

Jakarta skyline - scroll to the right!
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Old April 3rd, 2007, 06:05 AM   #1429
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i mean third

1. hongkong
2. s.e. asian cities
3. dubai- although they have supertalls, dubai is not that massive compared to the mentioned cities
Dubai's skyline is growing and there are alot of constructions happening. I think Dubai has the best skyline in the Middle East.

Dubai is not the only Middle Eastern city with an impressive skyline. Doha and Tel Aviv / Ramat Gan are rising as well.
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Old April 3rd, 2007, 06:15 AM   #1430
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Yup, I think south east Asian cities will be the next Hongkong....

Wow, I like that Jakarta pic!!!
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Yup, I think south east Asian cities will be the next Hongkong....

Wow, I like that Jakarta pic!!!
The only difference is, the middle class in most South East Asian cities can afford a nice house with a car, garden and a garage. In HK, you need alot of $$$ to have one.
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Old April 3rd, 2007, 05:15 PM   #1432
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Actually, cars are fairly affordable in Hong Kong. Even after taxes, they're not so expensive. Petrol costs about the same as in the UK. The key difference is people in Hong Kong don't want the additional baggage of owning a car. Finding parking in the city isn't always an easy thing to do, and with public transit so readily accessible point-to-point, the need for a car is greatly reduced. The high density also means services are always within walking distance.

Even houses are within range for middle class families. There are a number of village houses scattered around in the new towns, and they're not always far away from downtown either. There are a number of them in Shatin already, and the commute would be about an hour - quite typical.
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Dubai's skyline is growing and there are alot of constructions happening. I think Dubai has the best skyline in the Middle East.

Dubai is not the only Middle Eastern city with an impressive skyline. Doha and Tel Aviv / Ramat Gan are rising as well.
Yeah go doha!
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Old April 3rd, 2007, 11:47 PM   #1434
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The picture from Jakarta is stunning, but I think that HK has still the best skyline in Asia
1. HK
2. Singapore (It's not so big, but i realy like the skyline)
3. KL
4. Shanghai
5. Dubai (but in 3 years it could be on the top of the list )
6. Manila
7. Bangkok
8. Tokyo
9. Jakarta
10. Osaka
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Old April 4th, 2007, 02:56 AM   #1435
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Different parts of Bangkok:

Silom/Sathorn skyline
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Pratunam/Ratchadamri/Ploenchit skyline
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Sukhumvit skyline, pic by Barth (scroll)-->
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Old April 4th, 2007, 06:26 AM   #1436
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Actually, cars are fairly affordable in Hong Kong. Even after taxes, they're not so expensive. Petrol costs about the same as in the UK. The key difference is people in Hong Kong don't want the additional baggage of owning a car. Finding parking in the city isn't always an easy thing to do, and with public transit so readily accessible point-to-point, the need for a car is greatly reduced. The high density also means services are always within walking distance.

Even houses are within range for middle class families. There are a number of village houses scattered around in the new towns, and they're not always far away from downtown either. There are a number of them in Shatin already, and the commute would be about an hour - quite typical.
It's also according to what kind. Japanese cars such as Toyota or Honda are more affordable to the locals than the European ones. But still, you can find alot of European and even sports cars on HK streets.

Though affordable, I still find having a car inconvenient. Not just that but parking can be expensive as well. I think car are more a neccesity for those who live outside of the city centre or those in the farthest areas of The New Territories especially those living in the Sai Kung or Fairview Park area.
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Old April 4th, 2007, 03:39 PM   #1437
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wow, bankok has huge and beautiful skyline.
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Old April 4th, 2007, 05:18 PM   #1438
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It's also according to what kind. Japanese cars such as Toyota or Honda are more affordable to the locals than the European ones. But still, you can find alot of European and even sports cars on HK streets.

Though affordable, I still find having a car inconvenient. Not just that but parking can be expensive as well. I think car are more a neccesity for those who live outside of the city centre or those in the farthest areas of The New Territories especially those living in the Sai Kung or Fairview Park area.
The mass market Japanese brands are fairly cheap over the European luxury makers (VW, BMW, Mercedes) anywhere in the world. I suggest comparing models that market to a similar group of people (ie. the middle class).

Having a car is quite a significant convenience for families even if they live in the city. Taking the bus and train for a group of a few people can get very costly, and inconvenient if there are young children involved. Hence, the use of the car in Hong Kong is a lot more for leisure and rarely for work.
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Old April 6th, 2007, 02:34 AM   #1440
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The mass market Japanese brands are fairly cheap over the European luxury makers (VW, BMW, Mercedes) anywhere in the world. I suggest comparing models that market to a similar group of people (ie. the middle class).

Having a car is quite a significant convenience for families even if they live in the city. Taking the bus and train for a group of a few people can get very costly, and inconvenient if there are young children involved. Hence, the use of the car in Hong Kong is a lot more for leisure and rarely for work.
You hit is spot on. Back in the day, when I was young was when my parents had a car, and they never take it out except for during the weekends, especially trips to Repulse Bay and Ocean Park as a child , where public transport was more tricky than within the city.

My uncles also have cars for a couple of reasons: 1) they regularly travel to the mainland for business, and 2) I have elderly grandparents in senior homes, so it is much easier and more convenient than even a taxi to have when we take them out.

European cars are quite costly in HK, I remember my uncle's 745 was HK$1,100,000 and his S-something (I forget) was 1,300,000, which is about twice the cost here. (He gave the S to my aunt because he didn't want to look like a limo driver
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