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Old September 28th, 2016, 06:48 PM   #1
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Geographically largest altstadt in Germany to survive WW2 all or mostly intact

There have been some great threads already about what cities, and bigger towns in Germany made it through WW2 with no or not very much war damage. What I'd like to know is just in terms of raw size, and amount of actual older buildings, what city came through least damaged, and furthermore also did not suffer from too much post-war rebuilding in its altstadt area.
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Old September 28th, 2016, 06:57 PM   #2
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Goslar:



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Halle an der Saale was the biggest city in Germany that has not been bombed in ww2 (Population: 236'000)
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Görlitz, the largest city untouched by aerial bombings:

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Halle an der Saale was the biggest city in Germany that has not been bombed in ww2 (Population: 236'000)
Halle was bombed twice. The first on 31 March 1945, the second a few days later.

The first attack took place between the railway station and the city's centre, and the second bombing was in the southern district. It killed over 1,000 inhabitants and destroyed 3,600 buildings. Among them, the Market Church, St. George Church, the Old Town Hall, the City Theatre, historic buildings on Bruederstrasse and on Grosse Steinstrasse, and the city cemetery.
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Old September 28th, 2016, 08:52 PM   #8
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Regensburg.

The entire medieval city survived apart from one church, and modernization never hit it either.
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Erfurt is huge and Halle. Leipzig has saved large parts. And please don`t lough, Berlin has 1,5 Million people living in pre WW1 housing. Breslau ( Popolation was forced out at gunpoint) and Nr 1 by size: Vienna. Austria was forced to leave Germany after the war
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You didnt even notice that you use the same square for Göttingen and Gosslar ?

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Some of the mentioned pretty much fit the description.

I'd add Lübeck, Stralsund, Wismar (though they were all hit a bit), Schwerin, Tübingen, Konstanz and indeed Rothenburg. Though the largest actually are Halle, Erfurt, Regensburg and Goslar.
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You forgot Wiesbaden.
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You didnt even notice that you use the same square for Göttingen and Gosslar ?
Oops, must have been still on my copypaste. Thanks for catching that.
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Old September 29th, 2016, 06:51 PM   #14
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Erfurt is huge and Halle. Leipzig has saved large parts. And please don`t lough, Berlin has 1,5 Million people living in pre WW1 housing. Breslau ( Popolation was forced out at gunpoint) and Nr 1 by size: Vienna. Austria was forced to leave Germany after the war
Breslau was under sdiege by sovjet forces for a long time and was bombarded by cannons and stalin organs. Damage was as basd as areal bombings.

The main square was rebuildt twice, first with modernisque concrete buildings. Later, they torn those down and replaced the with the replicas you see today. You can see this process in a photo series in the town museum there.

(I was there in 2008)
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Some of the mentioned pretty much fit the description.

I'd add Lübeck, Stralsund, Wismar (though they were all hit a bit), Schwerin, Tübingen, Konstanz and indeed Rothenburg. Though the largest actually are Halle, Erfurt, Regensburg and Goslar.
Rothenburg was badly damaged and so was Lubeck. Wismar too, and has ruins of one of its cathedrals there as a memorial. The other was still under reconstruction while I was there in 2004.
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Only minor portions of these places were hit badly, and Rothenburg was almost fully reconstructed like no other place. Even in pre-war times, it was considered "the model German old town" already.

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You forgot Wiesbaden.
Which doesn't have a real old town in my books. But yeah, it's among the largest cities that were almost left untouched by war bombings. And it's beautiful, at least great portions of it.

Leipzig was hit too and suffered by GDR and post-reunion demolition rages, but imho is the best preserved metropolis of Germany. Same goes for Dresden outside the very center. Even Munich and Hamburg aren't that bad in this regard.
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Breslau was under sdiege by sovjet forces for a long time and was bombarded by cannons and stalin organs. Damage was as basd as areal bombings.

The main square was rebuildt twice, first with modernisque concrete buildings. Later, they torn those down and replaced the with the replicas you see today. You can see this process in a photo series in the town museum there.

(I was there in 2008)
I would like to add that I have great respect for the Poles in this respect. As the border was shifted westward in '45, and Danzig and Breslau became polish, the poles still reconstructed the cities (that had belonged to their former enemy) to pre war glory. Not many other countries would have done that (considering the pain the germans inflicted on the polish people during ww2)
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Rothenburg was badly damaged and so was Lubeck. Wismar too, and has ruins of one of its cathedrals there as a memorial. The other was still under reconstruction while I was there in 2004.
Yeah, Rothenburg was quite damaged.

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Old September 30th, 2016, 12:31 AM   #19
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Many important medieval cities with big old towns are still largerly intact because they lost importance long time ago.
I would add Mühlhausen/Thüringen, Naumburg/Saale and Quedlinburg to the list. Though its hard to say something about size. In some always sparsely populated and flat areas like the Altmark or Mecklenburg many old town buildings have only one or two storeys which resulted in a relatively large built up area.
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Old September 30th, 2016, 01:25 AM   #20
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Guys, he's asking for the largest. Why are you naming towns like Rothenburg or Quedlinburg which are tiny. Also Rothenburg, as mentioned by others, was pretty badly hit.

Regensburg has the biggest untouched Altstadt in Germany:





Other bigger cities with untouched or nearly untouched Alstädte are Heidelberg, Görlitz, Erfurt...
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