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Old October 7th, 2016, 11:21 AM   #41
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[QUOTE=erbse;135775474]Urbanista, I think Mikkel was talking about Hildesheim.
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I hope one day they decide to rebuild 200-300 metres in every direction from the main square without modern eyesores. That way it is more a city, not just a beautiful square.
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Old October 9th, 2016, 10:58 PM   #42
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What about Tubingen? Its old town seems to be intact, and I believe it's quite representative of local historical architecture.
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Old October 10th, 2016, 02:51 PM   #43
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Tübingen definitely is among the larger ones, certainly the largest standing example of an old town with plastered timberframe buildings.
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Old October 11th, 2016, 11:20 AM   #44
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Straßburg is the largest German city virtually untouched by WW2. It is now located in France. In current Germany, Regensburg is the largest. Heidelberg, Quedlinburg and Landshut are close followers.
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Well in this case one could also name Prague (predominantly german speaking until 19th century), Salzburg, Vienna or swiss cities like Bern or Zürich.
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Old October 11th, 2016, 02:00 PM   #46
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Swiss cities were never part of Deutscher Bund or Deutsches Rech or any other german leadership
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Old October 11th, 2016, 02:13 PM   #47
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Part of the Holy Roman Empire during middle ages. Just like the Alsace before its Annexation by France. Bern, Basel or Zürich were Free Imperial cities just like Nuremberg, Augsburg, Frankfurt or Rothenburg. So if we look at the medieval old towns, they can of course be considered as german or (if this term offends anyone because he isn't able to distinct it from the modern national state) central european. That Straßburg was part of the Empire from 1871 on was pretty meaningless for the already existing medieval old town. The swiss cities do not differ that much from modern south german cities like Freiburg or Konstanz (which would be part of Switzerland today if the Swiss had agreed to it)

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Coat of Arms of Berne, from the Berner Chronik of Michael Stettler, 1620. At this time, Berne still considered itself part of the Holy Roman Empire, thus adding the Imperial Eagle to its own coat of arms. The combination was called the Bern-Rych
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Old October 11th, 2016, 04:06 PM   #48
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Straßburg is the largest German city virtually untouched by WW2.
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Well in this case one could also name Prague (predominantly german speaking until 19th century), Salzburg, Vienna or swiss cities like Bern or Zürich.

Only 3 pages and this thread is already drifting into some Grossdeutschland Irredentism. Nice job guys. I guess a leopard can't change its spots
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I'm afraid history isn't politically correct. Pressing medieval old towns into modern nation concepts (and borders) is as artificial as it gets, especially in the case of Germany with its often changing borders over centuries. And a "German" old town is practically non-existent as a timber framed town in the Harz has little to nothing in common with an upper bavarian town.
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My vote, as a foreigner, ranked in no particular order (not size or anything)
- Görlitz
- Quedlinburg
- Erfurt
- Regensburg
- Landshut
- Passau
- Bamberg
- Heidelberg
- Erlangen

No, these weren't as big as Dresden, Köln, Magdeburg, Frankfurt etc. but I think they represent a good mix of rather large, intact towns across Germany (present day)
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Old October 11th, 2016, 10:11 PM   #51
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I'm afraid history isn't politically correct. Pressing medieval old towns into modern nation concepts (and borders) is as artificial as it gets, especially in the case of Germany with its often changing borders over centuries. And a "German" old town is practically non-existent as a timber framed town in the Harz has little to nothing in common with an upper bavarian town.
Correct. You can escape this problem using the word "Germanic" instead of German. The Germanic populations and their culture(s) / civilisation(s) represent a historical reality that is huge and extends over a lot of Europe's countries, from the British isles to Romania and Ukraine. Alsatians are definitely Germanic even if they aren't actually German, in the strict sense of word.
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My vote, as a foreigner, ranked in no particular order (not size or anything)
- Görlitz
- Quedlinburg
- Erfurt
- Regensburg
- Landshut
- Passau
- Bamberg
- Heidelberg
- Erlangen

No, these weren't as big as Dresden, Köln, Magdeburg, Frankfurt etc. but I think they represent a good mix of rather large, intact towns across Germany (present day)
Agree very much. But Erlangen? Haven't been there, but on google it doesn't seem to convince me. I rather put Tübingen (or Marburg) on that list and keep the other towns.
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Old October 12th, 2016, 10:19 PM   #53
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The thread topic is very interesting, but answered fairly quickly. A slight twist on the topic seems fair, if you like, which is the question:

If wishes were able to be granted (wouldn't that be nice)...which Altstadt that was indeed destroyed in WWII would you select to have been spared because of its unique wonder and importance? There's over 150 cities to pick from.
Tough call. Either Frankfurt, as its old town was staggeringly Medieval, narrow, timberframed right up until 1945, or Nuremberg as it used to be dripping with history.
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Agree very much. But Erlangen? Haven't been there, but on google it doesn't seem to convince me. I rather put Tübingen (or Marburg) on that list and keep the other towns.
Erlangen has a very well preserved Baroque city-scape, in part built by french lutherans - Hugenots. From my visits (on G.Earth) I'd say it looks good
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Erlangen has a very well preserved Baroque city-scape, in part built by french lutherans - Hugenots. From my visits (on G.Earth) I'd say it looks good
Your visit from Google Earth? Are you saying you only visited Germany from Google Earth?!

Anyway as an American that lived in Germany for 5 years your list is right on point. There's a few on there I was unable to see though. For smaller size Schwäbisch Hall, Dinkelsbühl, Goslar, Hannoversch Münden, Bernkastel-Kues and Speyer are all iconic in pure German fashion.
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Your visit from Google Earth? Are you saying you only visited Germany from Google Earth?!
I've been there twice; southern Bayern (incl. München) and Berlin. Need to see more
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How's that connected to the topic?
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It's obviously a spam account. Pretty much everyone one of his comments is "Amazing!"
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Rottenburg (Baden-Württemberg). Not the largest one I guess but very nice.
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Rottenburg (Baden-Württemberg). Not the largest one I guess but very nice.
Rothenburg was severly damaged in the war and mostly rebuilt:

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