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Old June 2nd, 2017, 07:37 PM   #41
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I love it, yet it looks like it would snap in half in a severe thunderstorm or hurricane.
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Old June 2nd, 2017, 07:44 PM   #42
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It's tall. It's skinny. It's a box with a really tall useless roof and an apparent lack of lateral support structures that, as a non-engineer, makes me nervous as hell. Otherwise it's great!
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Old June 3rd, 2017, 05:11 AM   #43
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I adore this tower since I love clean minimalism, which is what I get when I look at the renders.

In my opinion the Japanese connection is pretty clear, in how the tower is designed. Very reminiscent of contemporary Japanese minimalism, I'm mainly thinking about house design here, and my mind went there pretty quickly when seeing the focus on materials and simple form.

If this rises as designed it's the materials that will determine the quality of the tower; if panel seams are too overstated or glass subpar the tower will not be successful. Luckily quality materials are not really a worry of mine if it's a project in NYC. Very few buildings have been disappointments in that area!
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Old June 3rd, 2017, 09:10 PM   #44
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Care to differentiate between "Japanese minimalism" and Western?

http://cdn.trendir.com/wp-content/uploads/old/house-design/nagoya-residence-1.jpg


https://cdn.wallpaper.com/main/style...y-gardiner.jpg

Real Japenese minimalism is the Katsura Imperial Villa, which is an outlier in traditional Japanese architecture and looks like Versailles compared to the Western Bauhaus-derived concrete boxes that you call "Japanese." While Western modern architects were allegedly influenced by Katsura, the only one whose work shows it was Frank Loyd Wright, and he mutually influenced modern Japanese architecture.
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Old June 3rd, 2017, 09:29 PM   #45
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41 apartments... Pathetic.
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Old June 4th, 2017, 12:49 AM   #46
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41 apartments... Pathetic.

What on earth is pathetic about having less but obviously very large apartments?
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Old June 4th, 2017, 03:21 AM   #47
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What on earth is pathetic about having less but obviously very large apartments?
New York has a severe housing crisis. Many of the recent skyscrapers in Midtown have been creating units at a very low density and are wasting valuable development space. This would not be acceptable elsewhere and the zoning guidelines form minimum density clearly need to be increased.
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Old June 4th, 2017, 08:12 AM   #48
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You really think that this location is suitable for people who are affected by the housing crises? And do you think any sane developer would use this very location to build affordable housing here?
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Old June 4th, 2017, 10:39 AM   #49
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Manhattan is the playground of the rich. Affordable housing and luxury units are being built in the outer boroughs, especially the Bronx and suburbs.
Nimbys in Manhattan are upper middle class and above who have no right to complain about lack of housing for the less fortunate.
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Old June 4th, 2017, 10:43 AM   #50
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East Harlem is the playground of the rich?
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Old June 4th, 2017, 10:47 AM   #51
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You'd be surprised what people pay in East Harlem. And obviously, this is going off topic from NoMad. If anything infrastructure and schools should be bigger concerns for higher population density anywhere in Manhattan
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Old June 4th, 2017, 06:22 PM   #52
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Old June 5th, 2017, 06:05 AM   #53
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East Harlem is the playground of the rich?
Its on its way.
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Old June 5th, 2017, 07:34 AM   #54
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What on earth is pathetic about having less but obviously very large apartments?
In NYC, where there's desperation for affordable housing but all thats being developed is super sky mansions for the rich. Nothing for the middle class. Nothing but sectioned "affordable housing" units to meet tax exemptions. Thats whats pathetic.

Edit: Looks like I was too slow, someone already stated my argument.
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Old June 5th, 2017, 05:44 PM   #55
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Billionaire Developer Plans 1,001-Foot High Skyline Viewing Machine for NoMad
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Earlier this week, Five Points Development via Dezeen unveiled renderings of 262 Fifth Avenue, a 1,001-foot-tall skyscraper planned for the corner of Fifth Avenue and 29th Street in NoMad. The tower will be the first from the newly-formed development company led by Israeli-billionaire Boris Kuzinez. The three-building site was quietly assembled over the last two years and building permits filed in September detailing a 54-floor residential tower with SLCE as the executive architects.

According to the recent press release, Moscow-based, Meganom, are the tower’s design architects. Released renderings show an unapologetically modern building sheathed in aluminum and glass. The high-ceilinged residential floors will have open window walls to the south and north, and will have an east-facing wall perforated by wide porthole windows. The residences will be flanked by a windowless core to the west and a dramatic arched metal frame will crown the building and enclose a communal observation deck.




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Old June 6th, 2017, 12:28 AM   #56
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the worst part is nothing this tall will ever be built immediately to the west because it would block the view of the empire state building from downtown. I'm not against this project falling through.
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Old June 6th, 2017, 04:55 AM   #57
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This contributes literally nothing to the skyline. In fact, it detracts from it.
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Old June 6th, 2017, 06:10 AM   #58
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Are they trying to show off - who will build thinnest supertall?
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I can surely understand those who want the view towards the ESB preserved. The ESB is a vital and important part of the skyline. But it is also a building that is almost 90 years old and dominates this part of the city for the whole time. So I am not sure for how long that building should conserve the skyline and make the area around it unable to unleash it´s potential and develop a new identity and also give the city a new face. Had it been like this forever, we would still have the former Waldorf hotel on the ESB site. A city should of course remain it´s character, but a city is not a museum and should never be seen as such.
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Old June 6th, 2017, 04:02 PM   #60
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I was initially seduced by these great renders - so sleek and minimalist. But now not so thrilled with the realization that it has that solid blank side on the west. And looking more carefully, it seems like most of the east side facing the street is also solid, with a single porthole on each floor. I guess there's a good reason they are not showing any renders of that side - it must look a little odd from the outside. Bizarre that the design blocks off the main fifth ave facing view - must be a structurally required shear wall?
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