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Old November 22nd, 2016, 01:24 PM   #21
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The building next door is the Toronto Hydro building (publicly owned) - and heritage designated, so it probably won't be developed too soon.
Heritage designation means they have to abide by stricter regulations but it allows for demolition?
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Old November 26th, 2016, 06:48 PM   #22
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It requires that the heritage elements of the building be retained. For some buildings, that is only the exterior facade, so they can be demolished as long as that is retained (see the EY tower which wonderfully rebuilt and restored the Concourse building facade). For others, they feature extensive interior heritage elements, and the whole thing needs to be retained. This can be seen at projects like the Massey Tower due to the bank building's heritage bank hall.

Toronto Hydro is likely exterior only, so the facade would have to be preserved. That said, it is a large building and is owned by the City of Toronto. The fact that it is in public ownership means if the site were to ever be developed, the building would likely be retained as the city pays more attention to things like heritage retention than private developers. I wouldn't be surprised if Build Toronto (The city's real estate development wing that develops excess property) eventually develops the small parking lot in the rear of the building.. but not the whole thing.
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Old November 26th, 2016, 07:17 PM   #23
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I like it and am surprised at the negativity, but almost any new project in Toronto is greeted locally with negativity nowadays. It certainly doesn't look "typical" to anything I've seen, let alone look like every other condo.
A lot of people here obsess about wanting Toronto to look like another city, like Dubai or Tokyo, or Shanghai as that is their personal standard of beauty.
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Old November 27th, 2016, 04:05 AM   #24
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I like it and am surprised at the negativity, but almost any new project in Toronto is greeted locally with negativity nowadays. It certainly doesn't look "typical" to anything I've seen, let alone look like every other condo.
A lot of people here obsess about wanting Toronto to look like another city, like Dubai or Tokyo, or Shanghai as that is their personal standard of beauty.
I love that tower so much that i will defend them no matter what happens. I understand other folks that want to see Toronto like Dubai. It is because it's one of the most modernand beautiful city in the world.
Personally,i like the architectural style of Dubai a lot.So Toronto should be inspired by their architectural style. 2 Carlton has a world class design and this why i love it.For me,everything that is beautiful,no matter where is it,should inspire all cities around the world.

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Old November 27th, 2016, 07:17 PM   #25
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I like the design but wish it were in another spot.
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Old December 1st, 2016, 02:15 AM   #26
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Overall, there's nothing wrong with the proposal, except the concept of twin towers doesn't suit the site. The twins are proposed to be too close to each other. The site is small to begin with. One tower is best left for the site. In this case, it may be better to have 1 tower, and assuming if the developer wants a certain amount of units, a supertall or a near supertall may be justified.
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They are indeed very close, it seems that they will block a big portion of each others views, and based on the balconies it doesn't look like the stairwells etc are on that side.
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If you're right in the thick of it, expecting views to be maintained isn't realistic. Eventually most condos will get hemmed in on all sides. You'll have views of the tower across the street.
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Old December 2nd, 2016, 09:49 AM   #29
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Yeah but not this close, the other side of the street is wider and those are other projects. This is one that kinda shoots itself in the foot. But I get it, they want to pull as much out of this small site as possible.
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Yeah but not this close, the other side of the street is wider and those are other projects. This is one that kinda shoots itself in the foot. But I get it, they want to pull as much out of this small site as possible.
Building codes stipulate a minimum 25m between towers. This looks closer than that but it might be an optical illusion due the heights of these twins. That said you might be right about it being less than optimal.

A 2 tower proposal many blocks south of here went back to the drawing board. Rumours are that it's being re-worked as 1 super tall with a similar amount of residential floor space.
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You must be referring the 385 Yong Street project by Crestford. I've heard that rumour as well on Urban Toronto.
Anyhow, in regards to this proposal, the issue will be brought back that twin towers doesn't suit the site. City council will reject this proposal and push for 1 tower on this site.
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Old December 3rd, 2016, 04:11 AM   #32
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Yes, I was referring to 385 Yonge. I expect 1 taller tower on this site as well. Perhaps we can get something 350m+ here. It's on Yonge and at a subway station.
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