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Old October 18th, 2016, 01:22 AM   #21
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Of course capitalism is great, after all it's the one thing that gave Cuba everything we like about it: cool American automobiles, amazing Colonial and Art Deco architecture, rum, cigars, etc... The specialty though is that it is somewhat frozen in time, in Cuba we can see the capitalism of the 1950s. It's quite amazing, if you think about it. And I think the country should do what it can to keep some of this nostalgic charm despite necessary modernisation - not just for tourists, but for its own legacy and heritage.

Keep the best of every age and bring on the progress Cuba needs!

Btw, shouldn't this thread get renamed to HAVANNA? It's the largest metropolis of the Caribbeans, it'll get much more Google hits, and there aren't many projects in other Cuban places we can expect (and if so, we can put them here anyway). I'd prefer to have the city name in the thread title.
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Old October 18th, 2016, 02:16 AM   #22
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So you don't think that maybe Havanna should begin to evolve and modernize from it's stand still they have been in for the last 50 years?

And an establishment of a new banking system in Cuba is a GOOD thing because capitalism is a good thing. Communism is a failed ideology and a cancer to this World. Whats next the zionist banking conspiracy horseshit

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Of course capitalism is great, after all it's the one thing that gave Cuba everything we like about it: cool American automobiles, amazing Colonial and Art Deco architecture, rum, cigars, etc... The specialty though is that it is somewhat frozen in time, in Cuba we can see the capitalism of the 1950s. It's quite amazing, if you think about it. And I think the country should do what it can to keep some of this nostalgic charm despite necessary modernisation - not just for tourists, but for its own legacy and heritage.

Keep the best of every age and bring on the progress Cuba needs!

you both, are making completely wrong sentences (at the wrong thread)

you are comparing an ideology with a economic system. Communism is an ideology, and it can be implemented in very different ways, the same with capitalism as economic system.

Capitalism can be good only if it is controlled as in many countries of Europe, but in lot of places pure capitalism is terrible. Look at many countries from Africa for example, or many of the countires of south america, that also has a capitalist system and has lot of problems, because for dacades they didn't controlled the economic system. Even in the United States, that many think that is the greates country, because of their kind of capitalism, millions of persons don't have acces to a health system or to the university because of the cost of a private system.

And I put the example of Europe because may be you don't know, but the majority of countries of europe has been governed by socialist parties or have been always under the huge pressure by the unions like in france, and all that is part of the communist ideology, that is not a system, is an ideology, that is different

so don't mix ideologies with government or economic systems. And Tommy Boy, you say you are from Stockholm, so don't forget that in your country "Sveriges socialdemokratiska arbetareparti" has ruled for dacades, and you probably know your country is one of the most developed countries on earth. Socialist parties are inspired on communist ideas (that doesn't mean that they are communist parties, that is different)


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Btw, shouldn't this thread get renamed to HAVANNA? It's the largest metropolis of the Caribbeans, it'll get much more Google hits, and there aren't many projects in other Cuban places we can expect (and if so, we can put them here anyway). I'd prefer to have the city name in the thread title.

well, I created the thread, and i know that there are lot of projects in Varadero and places like that
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Old October 18th, 2016, 03:10 AM   #23
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Dude. State ideologies are all about economic models. Most states have two or three larger politicial movements fighting for their socio-economic model - more or less state, it's mostly down to that question.

Socialism is intertwined with strictly government-controlled economics. Don't get fooled by loosened seemingly capitalist Marxist laboratories like China, the state still has a say in everything.

And the problems of South America, Africa, Arabia and other (semi) failed regions generally don't come from capitalism on the loose (which exists nowhere), but rather from corrupt and incompetent governments, state-controlled markets and monopolies, and a lack of infrastructure and education.

Well, we also should avoid confusing free market trade with capitalism here, that isn't the same at all.


Anyway, Cuba can only profit at large from free markets and fresh capital. We already see it gets investments like never before and it'll only get better.
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Dude. State ideologies are all about economic models. Most states have two or three larger politicial movements fighting for their socio-economic model - more or less state, it's mostly down to that question.
you said it... one thing is the ideology, and the other is the economic system of that ideology. One ideology can be related to different economic systems (of course that are very close one to each other, but the ideology doesn't defines an extrict system). It is not so simple as communism-capitalism. Both systems have lot of problems if you are ortodox.

I answered your post because of your sentence of "capitalism is great" that for me is like saying that "communism is great". Both are wrong, because both ideologies if you are radical can be terrible

People use to think that there are capitalist countries vs communist countries, but...

That is the definition of capitalism form Oxford: "an economic, political, and social system in which property, business, and industry are privately owned, directed towards making the greatest possible profits for successful organizations and people"

what about all the public companies in the "capitalist" world??

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Socialism is intertwined with strictly government-controlled economics. Don't get fooled by loosened seemingly capitalist Marxist laboratories like China, the state still has a say in everything.
And what about the socialism from most of the countries of Europe?? You are making radical sentences without thinking about it. There are countries where they have been too radical with the ideology and they implmented an economic system only thinkin on the ideology, in the case of comunism there is the example of Cuba, but in the case of capitalism is the example of Argentina, where during the 80's and 90's they implmented a radical capitasit system and it was terrible.


comunism by cambridge:

"a system of government under which there is no private industry and (in some forms) no private property, most things being state-owned"

socialism by cambridge:

"a political system in which the government owns businesses, and which allows the people to share money and opportunities more equally"

you talk about communism and socialism as if it was the exactly the same, and it is not. But both are from the same branch of ideas, and those ideas are not rotund.

There are lot of countries ruled by socialist parties that apply a controlled capitalist system on the economy and a socialist system on other things, or there are even lot of countries governed by right parties that have public companies, that it is completely contrary to the capitalist ideas



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And the problems of South America, Africa, Arabia and other (semi) failed regions generally don't come from capitalism on the loose (which exists nowhere), but rather from corrupt and incompetent governments, state-controlled markets and monopolies, and a lack of infrastructure and education.

Completly wrong. Im from Uruguay, and the problem was that they decided follow the neoliberalism, and it was terrible, it wasn't only because a corrupt government, it was because others foreign corrupt governments make all the possible(it means help militars to destroy democracy) to make those government implement those policies, during the dictatures and after. Allende and lot of politicians in south america were closer to the ideas of countries like sweeden, france or uk, rather than the ideas of countries like the urss, but it was dangerous for the interest of the neighbor of the north and their allies (it was against its economic interest and against their economic system). So it wasn't only because corrupt governments, lack of infrastructure, or lack of education, because there are countires like Argentina or Uruguay, that had awsome infraestructures and still having a good education system accesible for the majority and failed as countries, and it was because of the economic system that was completly radical. You love to simplify the history of our countries, but you most of the time you don't know the historical background very related to geopolitical reasons.


In cuba they have been radicals(with everything), and it was a failure for the economy. The same in lot of countries that thought that their ideas of a pure capitalist system was what they needed, and it was an error, because societies are very complex, so you need a complex system that combines all the good parts of every ideology

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Well, we also should avoid confusing free market trade with capitalism here, that isn't the same at all.

is true, I was wrong talking about capitalism as an economic system, because it is more an ideology based on a economic system, and the communism and socialism are more based on the social issues, but nothing is isolated, economics affects social issues, and social issues are affected by economics, so is more complex and I think we both where simplifying too much

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Anyway, Cuba can only profit at large from free markets and fresh capital. We already see it gets investments like never before and it'll only get better.
of course, that was what Cuba really needed. I hope the in a few years they will end with the embargo, and Cuba will start to change and may be, finally they will have a much free political system
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Cayo Guillermo

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Mango plans to open its first 'megastore' in Havana, Cuba, in March





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Con la terminación de los pilotes de concreto y el vallado metálico que conformarán el perímetro de seguridad, comenzaron las labores constructivas del Gran Hotel entre las ruinas del edificio que tuvo el mismo nombre, abandonado durante décadas y ubicado en la calle Brasil –más conocida como Teniente Rey, entre Zulueta y Monserrate, Habana Vieja.







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Se desarrollan labores constructivas en lo que será el Hotel Saratoga, ubicado en la intersección de las calles Martí y Maceo, de la ciudad de Holguín. Dejó de ser parte de un plan constructivo. Desde este septiembre del pasado año es realidad la reparación capital del céntrico hotel Saratoga de la ciudad de Holguín.El último uso del edificio antes de la clausura total hace algunos años por peligro de derrumbe fue como sede de la Compañía Folclórica La Campana
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El hotel San Carlos es una edificación en pleno Centro Histórico de Cienfuegos, emblema arquitectónico de pasadas centurias, el cual alcanzó pésimas condiciones con el arribo del período especial, pero que desde hace años experimenta arduo proceso de rescate.







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La Habana| Mercado de 4 Caminos (shopping centre)| Restoration

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Hace cerca de 3 años cerraron este mercado con la promesa de una enorme repación capital. Al parecer el proyecto comienza a cojer fuerza y debe estar listo para finales del 2019.

Construido a un costo de 1 175 000 pesos, fue una concesión del Ayuntamiento de La Habana a favor de Alfredo Hornedo y Suárez, quien gracias a esa licencia lo operó durante 30 años, y algún tiempo después de su vencimiento, con ligeras variantes. Lo de Único se debía a que dicha autorización prohibía la apertura de un establecimiento similar en un radio de dos kilómetros y medio y de casillas de expendio —puestos de viandas y frutas— en 700 metros a la redonda









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Antigua casona reconvertida en un popular bar en el Vedado, ubicado en la intersección de las calles 17 y E.















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Trinidad| Hotel Palacio Iznaga | Restoration


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El Palacio Iznaga, uno de los inmuebles paradigmáticos de la casa criolla en Cuba en el siglo XIX, se erige en el centro histórico de la ciudad de Trinidad y, según los especialistas, la construcción supone un reto para inversionistas y constructores al tener que armonizar sus altos valores patrimoniales con nuevos locales.A pesar de que la inversión en el Palacio Iznaga se inició hace tres años y estaba prevista para concluir en el 2015, el avance físico se encuentra apenas en el 31,3 por ciento.





















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Trinidad| Hotel Boutique Pansea | restoration


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El Hotel Pansea se construye al sur de la ciudad de Trinidad, tiene una ubicacián sobre el cerro la Pompa, y permitirá una vista panorámica de la histórica ciudad. El Hotel Pansea, localizado en el propio municipio sureño y cuya inversión comenzó en el 2012, dispondrá de 52 habitaciones y una amplia variedad de espacios dispuestos en un modernísimo diseño de herradura.























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Está previsto que la mezquita se construya en un terreno de una extensión estimada de4312 m2. Para la confección del diseño, se ha tenido en cuenta el estilo arquitectónico islámico; que, más allá de su función como lugar de culto, constituya también un atractivo para el turismo en la ciudad y que permita, tanto a residentes en La Habana como a sus visitantes, beneficiarse de sus instalaciones exteriores, que incluirán, además de la sala de rezos, un salón para celebraciones, restaurantes, una biblioteca e instalaciones de aseo para el público y los creyentes usuarios del lugar; así como áreas verdes y espacios de relajación, estos últimos cubiertos por enormes sombrillas, equipadas con mecanismos hidráulicos que se utilizarán para la protección de las lluvias y la luz solar.
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