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Old April 26th, 2005, 05:01 AM   #121
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is there any other city in NA close to this amount od future development?
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Old April 26th, 2005, 07:01 AM   #122
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every time i enter the city theres like 10 new cranes in the skyline. i love it !!!!
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Old April 26th, 2005, 04:45 PM   #123
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is there any other city in NA close to this amount od future development?
Oh yes, Chicago and New York immediately come to mind. I'm sure there are at least a couple others (possibly Miami).
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Old April 27th, 2005, 03:56 AM   #124
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New York Development...

I checked out New york's Construction status and I found this at wirednewyork.com

It said this was New York's "New Construction" list so I dont now how accurate it is. It could be the stats for the passed year or maybe it's all of New Yorks construction plan...If it is everything then it sure dosen't compare to Toronto's Construction stats.

New York's: "New Construction" list...


Most Exciting Projects

* Freedom Tower (2005)
* Hearst Magazine Building (2006)
* Bloomberg Tower (2004)
* New York Times Tower (2006)
* One Bryant Park (Bank of America Tower) (2006)
* 7 WTC (2004)

Tallest Proposed/Under Construction

* Freedom Tower (1776 ft)
* One Bryant Park (Bank of America Tower) (960 ft)
* New York Times Tower (853 ft/1142 ft spire)
* Bloomberg Tower (868 ft)
* 7 WTC (750 ft)
* Times Square Tower (7 Times Square) (724 ft)
* Hearst Magazine Building (596 ft)
* 10 Barclay Street (800 ft?)
* Beekman Street Tower

Currently under Construction

* New York Times Tower (2006)
* Bloomberg Tower (2004)
* One Beacon Court (2004)
* 7 WTC
* Hearst Magazine Building (2006)
* One Bryant Park (Bank of America Tower) (2006)
* 165 Charles Street (2005)
* 163 Charles Street
* 10 Barclay Street (2005)
* 15 William Street (2005)
* InterActiveCorp Headquarters (2006)
* 505 Fifth Avenue (2005)
* The Heritage at Trump Place (240 Riverside Boulevard) (2004)
* The Greenwich Street Project (497 Greenwich Street) (2004)
* 505 Greenwich Street (2004)
* River Lofts (2004)
* The Helena (2004)
* 995 Third Avenue
* Hampton Inn Herald Square (2004)
* Atlantic Terminal
* Vesta 24 (2005)
* 48 Laight Street
* Soho 25
* Strivers Gardens
* The Hubert
* The Paradigm
* The Metropolitan
* The Milan (2005)
* Madison Plaza
* 1400 on Fifth
* 325 Fifth Avenue (2006)
* Astor Place (2005)
* Orion (2005)
* Chelsea Club (2005)
* 195 Bowery Street (2005)
* 37 ARTS - Baryshnikov Arts Center (2005)
* West 58 (2005)
* Lumiere (2005)
* Gateway Condominiums (2005)
* Harlem Horizon (2005)
* 1600 Broadway (2006)
* Mayflower Hotel Site (2007)
* Standard Hotel
* Downtown Hotel (2005)
* 40 Mercer
* Hudson Blue

Proposed

* Olympic Village
* New York Sports and Convention Center
* Beekman Street Tower
* 80 South Street
* Times Square Plaza (11 Times Square)
* Con Ed site
* 270 Greenwich Street
* Riverview Apartments
* Pennsylvania Hotel Tower
* The New Penn Station (Daniel Patrick Moynihan Station)
* Site 5C in Tribeca
* Brooklyn Children’s Museum
* Bronx Criminal Court Complex
* Brooklyn Marriott addition (345 Adams St)
* 1 New York Place
* 2 Gold Street
* 10 Liberty Street
* Gallery at Metrotech Tower
* Light Bridges
* Roosevelt Hotel site
* 2 Columbus Circle
* 310 W 52nd Street
* NY CyberCenter
* The Park Avenue Atrium

Recently completed

* MoMA expansion (2004)
* Times Square Tower (7 Times Square) (2004)
* Time Warner Center (2004)
* Park Avenue Place (2004)
* Milan (2004)
* The Joan Weill Center for Dance for the Alvin Ailey American Dance Theater (2004)
* Morton Square (2004)
* Rivington Hotel (2004)
* Marc (2004)
* The Solaire (20 River Terrace)
* 300 Madison/CIBC World Markets
* 425 Fifth Avenue (2004)
* Perry West (173/176 Perry Street) (2004)
* Hotel Gansevoort (2003)
* Nicole (2003)
* The Porter House (2003)
* 455 Central Park West
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Old April 27th, 2005, 03:59 AM   #125
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One Beacon Court is the best. Though, units start I believe at 5 million.
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Old April 27th, 2005, 04:52 AM   #126
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Man...NYC just keeps building hotel after hotel...and the fuking rates never go down!! LOL

Toronto's selling a ton more condos though.





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Old April 27th, 2005, 05:05 AM   #127
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Harbour View Estates II [CityPlace] - 503 ft. 49 floors


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Old April 27th, 2005, 05:14 AM   #128
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CityPlace Is gunna skyrocket Toronto's popularity...
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Old April 27th, 2005, 10:24 PM   #129
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i keep hearing about cityplace, is that the downtown area where the golf course and driving range used to be?
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Old April 27th, 2005, 11:12 PM   #130
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i keep hearing about cityplace, is that the downtown area where the golf course and driving range used to be?
Yes it is. The golf course is no more!


The finished product:


www.cityplace.ca (for day-night time lapse)
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Old April 29th, 2005, 06:24 AM   #131
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Wow, love this thread, just found it today. Think I've learned more about the condo boom here than all the other websites combined!

Anyways, anyone know the status of 1 Bloor East. I love the design of that building, but it does'nt look like it going to get built?
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Old April 29th, 2005, 07:55 AM   #132
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1 Bloor East

Ya....there hasn't been any talk about the start of construction date, but it is definetly approved and the link below gives all the details. Also I don't think it will be cancelled. Im sure they're going to deffiently start building by fall this year. Very cool building I agree...

- The proposal calls for a semi-transparent metal and glass oval tower, using advanced "green" environmentally efficient technology. At 202 M/ 663 Ft. and 57 Floors.

Details...Click


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Old April 29th, 2005, 09:24 PM   #133
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Hate to burst your bubble guys but Vegas currently has 40,000 condos under construction and Miami a whopping 69,000 versus Toronto's 25,000.

From USAToday:
Today, an estimated 50 major condo projects are proposed or under construction within 50 city blocks in Miami on or near Biscayne Bay. There are so many gaping holes in the ground — where old buildings have been razed and new ones are planned — that downtown looks as if it has been bombed. A remarkable 69,000 condo units are currently in the permit pipeline or are newly built and for sale citywide. By comparison, Las Vegas — perennially among the USA's hottest housing markets — issued permits for 40,000 units of all types of housing last year.
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Old April 29th, 2005, 09:30 PM   #134
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What bubble? We just said were booming, not that we had the biggest boom going on, thtis has already been discussed.
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Old April 29th, 2005, 09:48 PM   #135
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Ehhh...

U/C is not the same as "in the pipeline:

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Hate to burst your bubble guys but Vegas currently has 40,000 condos under construction and Miami a whopping 69,000 versus Toronto's 25,000.

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Today, an estimated 50 major condo projects are proposed or under construction within 50 city blocks in Miami on or near Biscayne Bay. There are so many gaping holes in the ground — where old buildings have been razed and new ones are planned — that downtown looks as if it has been bombed. A remarkable 69,000 condo units are currently in the permit pipeline or are newly built and for sale citywide. By comparison, Las Vegas — perennially among the USA's hottest housing markets — issued permits for 40,000 units of all types of housing last year.

Your numbers are meaningless without more context.
Toronto figures frequently tote 100,000 units in the pipeline, but if we're to rank cities we have to have to compare on a level playing field (as in what we're counting - u/c, newly built, approved, proposed, some combo of those).
Also, it doesn't look like the Miami numbers are for the city as a whole.

Meh, I really have no interest in determining if Toronto is the #1 condo champion of N.A., just pointing out your logical flaw.
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Old April 30th, 2005, 12:02 AM   #136
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^ Yeah, I heard that there are 42,000 housing units slated for JUST along the waterfront area. I'm not too sure how many units are being built inland but from my deduction.... I believe that number is in the 10's of thousands.
Just wanted to add that.
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Old April 30th, 2005, 12:29 AM   #137
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y dont they build atleast a 400m+ tower in toronto. when every1 around the world is busy constructing 600-700m+ towers...in toronto the tallest buildings still stuck at around 325m ... which maybe be ready by 2009..long time...is there any kinda restriction for supertalls in Toronto ?? both trump towre and sapphire tower. are competing in the same height bracket..when they could easily build real supertalls...????
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Old April 30th, 2005, 12:45 AM   #138
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Yea...isn't the "pipeline" figure for Toronto 140,000 units?

Toronto's been selling like 40,000 units every year now for a while. And I'm sure US figures are for these massive "metros".

And I differentiate between inner-city highrise and suburban single detached housing.

25,000 would be an at-any-given-time figure just for recently constructed, u/c or in sales project JUST IN DOWNTOWN.





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Old April 30th, 2005, 12:47 AM   #139
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"every1 around the world is busy constructing 600-700m+ towers"

Really. Everyone? Name me some of the places. I'd love to hear it.
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Old April 30th, 2005, 01:52 AM   #140
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i think a 400 m skyscraper in toronto would be awsome "is there any kinda restriction for supertalls in Toronto" lol NNOOO otherwise they wouldnt have built the CN tower or First Canadian place which was a really big building when it was built in the 70's...the problem is not restrictions, the problem is that, well what are you gonna d with such a huge building it would take so long to get all the Offices and condos in it sold if it were a mixed use building, it simply wouldnt be very practical, take away trump and saphire then yes it becomes practical but id much rather have a 1100 and a 1060 foot then one 1300-1500 foot building IMO
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