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Old July 18th, 2017, 01:31 PM   #2021
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Cologne is a sad case indeed. Though they reconstructed more of the old town than the average larger city. But the city and its downtown is pretty large, so it somehow gets lost in a vast ocean of -indeed- trash.

On the other hand, various corners of Cologne improved fast in recent years and I'm looking forward to see the city becoming an attractive metropolis again (at its heart).
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Old July 19th, 2017, 12:19 AM   #2022
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I was just wondering, is there any city (not necessarily a major one) in the industrial area of Ruhr that escaped the war without being completely destroyed/that still has some remnants of an old town, at least a street or something?
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Old July 19th, 2017, 12:51 AM   #2023
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Of course. Many small towns and villages have a well preserved cityscape.


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Old July 19th, 2017, 04:01 PM   #2024
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yes, many villages escaped war damage, but I am unaware of any area large enough to qualify as a "city" in the Ruhr that was not heavily damaged. Were there?
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Old July 19th, 2017, 06:40 PM   #2025
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I'm not sure about your definition of "city". In German this term is almost exclusively used as a synonym vor Stadtzentrum (city center) or Innenstadt (central city). Mostly in a commercial context.
We know that almost no city in Germany with more than 100.000 (Großstadt) pre war population escaped major war damage. But the Ruhrgebiet is basically a conglomerat of hundreds of cities and villages which grew into bigger cities due to suburbanisation, fusions and reorganisations in consequence, especially in the 1970s . And in many cases the built up urban area still does not coincide with local borders. So "villages" manage to have 20 to 60.000 inhabitants.
I'm not an expert for the Ruhr region though. But for what I know, Recklinghausen as a larger pre war city with about 90.000 inhabitants received only minor damage.

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Old July 19th, 2017, 08:08 PM   #2026
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German Wikipedia article about Recklinghausen says only about 15% total damage of the city during WW2.
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Old July 20th, 2017, 12:45 AM   #2027
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Thanks so much for the information and pictures! ^

I think with roughly 60 000 people, Unna definitely counts as a small city, even if it incorporated some villages at some point; its center looks gorgeous indeed! Recklinghausen also seems to be in decent shape, especially when compared to most of the major cities in the area.
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Old July 20th, 2017, 09:15 AM   #2028
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I just got this from random searches on Google but is true that Görlitz is the best preserved "historic" German city that escaped destruction in World War 2?

I found photos of the city center and it looks beautiful:


https://www.morgenpost.de/reise/klei...as-Drehen.html

I read that it's a favorite shooting location for Hollywood movies for its well-preserved cityscape. (The Grand Budapest Hotel and Inglorious Basterds to name a few.)
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Old July 20th, 2017, 10:44 AM   #2029
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I would say so. It's got a great mix of medieval architecture as well as late 19th century buildings which make it look more like Berlin in some parts. Went there a few years ago, here's the thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1188453
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Old July 20th, 2017, 02:06 PM   #2030
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There are many very well preserved historic cities in Germany. Görlitz is kinda special because a) it was an important city even before industrialisation an b) With about 94.000 pre war inhabitants (of whom 9000 lived in the todays polish parts) it is also among the biggest pre war cities which remained largely undestroyed and was also not hit by major architectural accidents after 1945 (unlike other bigger undestroyed cities like Halle or Erfurt.)
Besides, Görlitz reached 85.000 inhabitants already in 1910, so it has quite a large share of Gründerzeit buildings.
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Old July 20th, 2017, 05:13 PM   #2031
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That is Gorlitz!



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I just got this from random searches on Google but is true that Görlitz is the best preserved "historic" German city that escaped destruction in World War 2?

I found photos of the city center and it looks beautiful:


https://www.morgenpost.de/reise/klei...as-Drehen.html

I read that it's a favorite shooting location for Hollywood movies for its well-preserved cityscape. (The Grand Budapest Hotel and Inglorious Basterds to name a few.)
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Old July 21st, 2017, 09:12 AM   #2032
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That is Gorlitz!
Yes, just as stated!
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Old July 21st, 2017, 06:17 PM   #2033
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There are some other cities that escaped the war and are largely intact than just Görlitz:
Regensburg, Heidelberg, Bamberg, Erfurt, Lüneburg, Konstanz, Landshut, Passau etc.

As far as I know of those Regensburg is the biggest undestroyed German city and it is a UNESCO World Heritage site.

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Old July 21st, 2017, 06:41 PM   #2034
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I had a question about Passau. I read that it was in fact somewhat damaged during the war, with a few bombings. Anyone have insight on how much damage, and how much reconstruction was needed?
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Old July 23rd, 2017, 04:28 PM   #2036
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Old July 26th, 2017, 01:20 PM   #2037
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Köln

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Old July 26th, 2017, 02:29 PM   #2038
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The Opernhaus Koln looks larger than any others of the era. Huge. And beautiful design.
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Old July 27th, 2017, 11:26 AM   #2039
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There are some other cities that escaped the war and are largely intact than just Görlitz:
Regensburg, Heidelberg, Bamberg, Erfurt, Lüneburg, Konstanz, Landshut, Passau etc.

As far as I know of those Regensburg is the biggest undestroyed German city and it is a UNESCO World Heritage site.
Beautiful! If war didn't happen I wonder how many German cities would be UNESCO World Heritage sites. Probably as many as Italy's? Any wild guesses?
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I doubt there would be 18 World heritage cities in Germany, as many of the historic city centers whre heavily modified during industrialisation period, but a lot of individual buildings or building ensembles would be.

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