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Old January 30th, 2010, 12:36 AM   #301
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Old January 31st, 2010, 05:58 AM   #303
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excellent views really amazing
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Amazing and yet very saddening all at the same time!
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Old February 13th, 2010, 11:18 PM   #306
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Some inside shots of the destroyed Stadtschloss in Berlin... in glorious AGFA color!




























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Wow. The stadtschloss photos are just incredible. Imagine the sheer work that went into those interiors. The craftsmanship, the time, the effort and imagination.
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Old February 16th, 2010, 11:40 PM   #308
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Shamefully, I discovered this 3d only today...it's above and beyond cool .
It's gonna take me weeks to properly examine the pictures, I knew only the ones about Berlin.

Thank you guys for your hard work.

It is a wonderful , even if sad, tribute to the marvelous cities of Deutschland and their history.

PS just recently , on the location of the former Palast der Republik, and former (and future?) Stadtschloss, I saw they built an infobox like the one they had in Potsdamer Platz...let's hope they find the money and they really rebuild it.
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Old February 17th, 2010, 03:23 PM   #309
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Your interest in German history and architecture is very welcome, feel free to contribute and comment here


They're definitely going to reconstruct the Berlin palace / Stadtschloss.
You can follow the process here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=178723

Soon there will be an international thread too, as I intend to open such one.
So, you visited the place of the former Palast der Republik lately? Did you take photos of the place and infobox?
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Old February 18th, 2010, 06:03 PM   #310
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They're definitely going to reconstruct the Berlin palace / Stadtschloss.
You can follow the process here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=178723
I'm not optimistic about this reconstruction. As far as I can tell none of the most magnificent interiors are being recreated, and I agree with the others who dislike both the modernist facade and the decision to fiddle with the dimensions of the courtyards, etc. It should be rebuilt in its original form, including the really old Renaissance part at the rear, reconstruct the most significant interiors and then fit whatever else they want to do with the building into its reconstructed form. I'm thinking this might turn out to be on a par with the reconstruction of the stadtschloss in Braunschweig i.e. a stunning facade with very little inside.
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Old February 18th, 2010, 07:50 PM   #311
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I'm not optimistic about this reconstruction. As far as I can tell none of the most magnificent interiors are being recreated, and I agree with the others who dislike both the modernist facade and the decision to fiddle with the dimensions of the courtyards, etc. It should be rebuilt in its original form, including the really old Renaissance part at the rear, reconstruct the most significant interiors and then fit whatever else they want to do with the building into its reconstructed form. I'm thinking this might turn out to be on a par with the reconstruction of the stadtschloss in Braunschweig i.e. a stunning facade with very little inside.
I'm not sure what form it is to be rebuilt in.

Anyhow, this is modernist dictatorship at its best, shoving one small group's tastes down everybody's throats.
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Seeing some of these photos breaks my heart. So much beauty has been lost. And unfortunately, very little of it has been replaced with anything of equal value. In regards to the palace, I've said it once and I'll say it again, the new palace in Berlin is an abomination and not worthy of the name.
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Seeing some of these photos breaks my heart. So much beauty has been lost. And unfortunately, very little of it has been replaced with anything of equal value. In regards to the palace, I've said it once and I'll say it again, the new palace in Berlin is an abomination and not worthy of the name.
In what way an abomination? You mean the new version they have planned? I think I agree. I must say that, as a piece of architecture, I'm not at all convinced by the 19th century dome on top of the early 18th century palace. If I'd been involved (I wish!) I would've left the dome off and spent the money it will cost on rebuilding the Renaissance quarters and some of the interiors! As for it being called the Humboldt Forum... No-one will call it that. It will be known as the stadtschloss.

Anyway, as erbse said, we need an English-language thread on this as it's a massive topic and is very interesting for those of us who don't speak German.

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Well we already have such a topic somewhere. But I think we need a new one in this section.
(Search for 'Good bye Palace of the Republic' or smth similar.)
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Old February 21st, 2010, 12:28 PM   #315
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How utterly tragic. Germany and Poland had such gorgeous architecture, and now all that remains are ugly modern buildings and communist abominations. Look what they replaced Konigsberg castle with:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fileom_sovetov.jpg

*barf*

The only major German city that seems to have retained its true beauty is Munich. All the others, Dresden, Frankfurt, Hamburg, Cologne, Berlin, Leipzig, Stuttgart, Dusseldorf... they're all ugly and modern now. Truly awful. And what's worse is that it wasn't restricted to Germany. The beautiful cities of Eastern Europe (except Prague and Budapest) have all been destroyed... Bucharest, Sofia, Kiev, Vilnius, Riga... I'm just glad Italy managed to get out unscathed. They should just tear down Berlin and start over. It's so ugly now, and filled with ugly, soulless apartment blocks and glass towers. Same with Warsaw.
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In what way an abomination? You mean the new version they have planned? I think I agree. I must say that, as a piece of architecture, I'm not at all convinced by the 19th century dome on top of the early 18th century palace. If I'd been involved (I wish!) I would've left the dome off and spent the money it will cost on rebuilding the Renaissance quarters and some of the interiors! As for it being called the Humboldt Forum... No-one will call it that. It will be known as the stadtschloss.

Anyway, as erbse said, we need an English-language thread on this as it's a massive topic and is very interesting for those of us who don't speak German.

Yeah, I was talking about the new "schloss". And I agree completely.
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The only major German city that seems to have retained its true beauty is Munich. All the others, Dresden, Frankfurt, Hamburg, Cologne, Berlin, Leipzig, Stuttgart, Dusseldorf... they're all ugly and modern now. Truly awful. And what's worse is that it wasn't restricted to Germany. The beautiful cities of Eastern Europe (except Prague and Budapest) have all been destroyed... Bucharest, Sofia, Kiev, Vilnius, Riga... I'm just glad Italy managed to get out unscathed. They should just tear down Berlin and start over. It's so ugly now, and filled with ugly, soulless apartment blocks and glass towers. Same with Warsaw.
Vilnius and Riga are still looking pretty good. In Germany Leipzig is probably one of the nicest big cities. Hamburg suffered a lot of damage as well but contrary to Cologne it has retained a lot of its appeal and charm. Stuttgart, Frankfurt...yeah, they're fairly ugly for the most part now.
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How utterly tragic. Germany and Poland had such gorgeous architecture, and now all that remains are ugly modern buildings and communist abominations. Look what they replaced Konigsberg castle with:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fileom_sovetov.jpg

*barf*

The only major German city that seems to have retained its true beauty is Munich. All the others, Dresden, Frankfurt, Hamburg, Cologne, Berlin, Leipzig, Stuttgart, Dusseldorf... they're all ugly and modern now. Truly awful. And what's worse is that it wasn't restricted to Germany. The beautiful cities of Eastern Europe (except Prague and Budapest) have all been destroyed... Bucharest, Sofia, Kiev, Vilnius, Riga... I'm just glad Italy managed to get out unscathed. They should just tear down Berlin and start over. It's so ugly now, and filled with ugly, soulless apartment blocks and glass towers. Same with Warsaw.
Strasbourg has also managed to remain for the most part unscathed. The German Luftwaffe didn't bomb it because they considered it German, and the Allies did not subject it to terror bombing (they targeted only the factories and the railway lines in Strasbourg, they did not carpet bomb the city as they did in Germany) because the city was considered French, so on the Allied side.

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The Brandenburg Gate shots are fascinating. It looks to me as though many of the damaged buildings could've been repaired instead of totally demolishing them!
Of course they could. It was a deliberate policy of the East German authorities to destroy most of the buildings that could have been repaired. It was ideological. The same happened in Paris when they destroyed the Tuileries Palace which could have been rebuilt. The East German authorities destroyed central Berlin much more than the war.
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Strasbourg has also managed to remain for the most part unscathed. The German Luftwaffe didn't bomb it because they considered it German, and the Allies did not subject it to terror bombing (they targeted only the factories and the railway lines in Strasbourg, they did not carpet bomb the city as they did in Germany) because the city was considered French, so on the Allied side.
Oh yeah, Strasbourg is very beautiful. It seems mostly intact as well.

As for Riga and Vilnius, I guess I shouldn't say that they're ugly, because they're not, but not as nice as Tallinn.
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