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Old March 5th, 2010, 10:09 AM   #341
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... to place a glass skyscraper in the middle of Venice
That's not such a bad idea.I wouldn't mind if the whole city would be completely "systematized" and replaced with a futuristic/deconstructivist-style urban environment.It'll sink soon anyway
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That's not such a bad idea.I wouldn't mind if the whole city would be completely "systematized" and replaced with a futuristic/deconstructivist-style urban environment.It'll sink soon anyway
You want all of Venice to look like this?



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Old March 5th, 2010, 05:11 PM   #343
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Maybe with a few Venetian Gothic windows,just to give a hint at its past)))

And Palazzo Ducale could be rebuild in a brutalist style,while the St. Mark's Basilica is to feature a Lloyds building-style appearance

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Old March 5th, 2010, 07:07 PM   #344
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Yeah, sure. Let's head back to the topic people. And stop swearing/affronting each other. Cordial thanks.



Since we were talking about Venice - there was a breath of the Adria city over Dresden as well

Amazing building: Venezianisches Haus (Venetian House) at the Elbe (Terrassenufer 3), also called Gutschmidt'sches Haus





This building had a nice twin at the former Carolabrücke:

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Old March 5th, 2010, 07:33 PM   #345
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I think the last one had some Ottoman and Byzantine overtones,rather than Venetian ones.I'd recognise that anywhere.
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Old March 5th, 2010, 08:26 PM   #346
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That's because Venetian Gothic featured Oriental/Byzantine elements, since it evolved during a time of thriving trade with the Orient.

So the above Dresden building clearly is a reminiscence of original Venetian Gothic.


Compare it to Pallazo Foscari for instance.

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Old March 5th, 2010, 08:56 PM   #347
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That's because Venetian Gothic featured Oriental/Byzantine elements, since it evolved during a time of thriving trade with the Orient.
I know that and it's true.

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So the above Dresden building clearly is a reminiscence of original Venetian Gothic.
Clearly it's not;it obviously looks different from the other two and doesn't bear too much similarity to the Venetian palace either.I guess we agree to disagree
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That's because Venetian Gothic featured Oriental/Byzantine elements, since it evolved during a time of thriving trade with the Orient.

So the above Dresden building clearly is a reminiscence of original Venetian Gothic.

Compare it to Pallazo Foscari for instance.
The Venetian House in Dresden was modeled after Palazzo dei Turchi:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fondaco_dei_Turchi

"From the early 17th century through to 1838, the fondaco served as a one-building-ghetto for Venice's Ottoman Turkish population (thus "dei Turchi"). The fondaco then served as a combination home, warehouse, and market for the Turkish traders.
The building was in a very bad state by the mid-19th century, and was completely restored (effectively rebuilt) between 1860 and 1880, with little regard for the original Byzantine design"

So, in the middle of the 19th century, when the architect from Dresden visited Venice, the building looked totally different.
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Anyway,it's great to see that Dresden also treasured these kind of unique and quaint jewels
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Karasek: Beren was talkin about the last building shown at Carolabrücke, not the Venetian House though.


Indeed, Dresden offered a huge amount of architectural treasures. It's so endlessly sad many of these will probably be gone forever. It had some of the most influential and beautiful historicist and baroque buildings ever built.
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Old March 6th, 2010, 07:55 PM   #351
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That's not such a bad idea.I wouldn't mind if the whole city would be completely "systematized" and replaced with a futuristic/deconstructivist-style urban environment.It'll sink soon anyway
The fact that someone would even hint at the suggestion of replacing a single block in Venice with faddish architecture is an absolute insult to architecture.

Childish(and not in the good way) architecture today can not even compare to the buried foundations of a Venetian house.

The world is going to end someday too, why not just let everything go to hell, eh?
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Old July 29th, 2010, 01:01 PM   #352
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Old July 29th, 2010, 01:03 PM   #353
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Some useful links (originally posted by Dr. Mabuse at Germany before WW2 - Dozens of links with hundreds of photos):


A newly discovered collection of more than 3,000 aerial photographs of Germany before and during the allied bombing campaign of the second world war. The photographs, taken diagonally with special cameras from low-flying aircraft, offer detailed views of buildings. They concentrate on Germany's inner cities, which are shown in their full baroque and gothic splendour.

All in all excatly 3235 negatives, but only about 200 hundreds are digitized and uploaded. Here they are.
http://www.uni-marburg.de/fb09/fotom...ernahm/kieler2
The other 3000 are waited to be uploaded.

Polish Capital Warsaw http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/fm931417a.jpg
Königsberg (today Kalinigrad) http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/fm931829a.jpg
Mainz http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/fm932809a.jpg
Kassel http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/fm933530a.jpg
Frankfurt http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/fm932665a.jpg

In http://www.bildindex.de you can search for others areial photos, not only from germany but from france or belqium or italy.

More pictures of german cities within historic pics, include some inside buildings, eg Castle Wilhelmshöhe Kassel
http://www.hessenbild.de/neue_dateie...storie-inh.php

15 choosen realcolor photos
http://www.welt.de/kultur/article198...d_frueher.html

Colone before ww2, includes some Streetviews
http://www.anicursor.com/colpicoldd.html
http://www.anicursor.com/colpicoldd2.html
http://www.anicursor.com/colpicoldd3.html

Hamburg
http://www.bildarchiv-hamburg.de/thu...humb3a.htm#Mes

5 or 6 pics from Stuttgart
http://www.dtp-internet.de/stuttgarthistory/

Lübeck
http://www.luebeck-im-bild.de/Willko...uftbilder.html

berlin 1935
http://www.flickr.com/photos/galapia...th/3454983528/

stadtbild deutschland
http://www.stadtbild-deutschland.de/home.html

Stadtbild deutschland fraknkfurt virtuell
http://www.stadtbild-deutschland.de/.../10/index.html

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtuel...nkfurt_am_Main
altfrankfurt

Oldfrankfurt
http://www.altfrankfurt.com/Hauptwache1.htm

Colored black and white pictures germany about 1900
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/...temp/~pp_zIXM:

Historic Maps
http://www.historic-maps.de/

Have fun and enjoy architecture from the past
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wow, what a resource. thanks.
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Old August 12th, 2010, 03:38 AM   #355
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Apparently they had already destroyed a large section of the Medieval heart of Cologne to build the railway line.

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Wow! Köln war sehr schön!!!
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Some pics of Potsdam, historical capital of Prussia. Most people probably wouldn't believe that Prussia had a sense of beauty...














Other towns decorated their bridges with saints, Prussias capital with soldiers:

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Sehr Schön! Die Bilder sind ausgezeichnet! Danke!
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Old August 13th, 2010, 05:33 AM   #360
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Ja sehr gut danke.
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