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Old September 16th, 2012, 10:50 AM   #881
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Augsburg



I nearly had a fit when I saw these two pictures at the monstrosity that must replace them, but I was in for a surprise



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augsburg_Town_Hall



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Go...l-augsburg.jpg

Its not perfect and the interior is simplified but at least they restored that golden room.

"The Goldener Saal, or Golden Hall, is the most impressive of the Rathaus's rooms, and one of the most important cultural monuments of the late German Renaissance. The Hall covers an area of 552 square metres (5,940 sq ft) with a ceiling height of 14 metres (46 ft), and is richly adorned with large doorways, magnificent murals and a coffered ceiling. The interior of the Hall was designed by Johann Matthias Kager, and was not completed until 1643 (the rest of the building was completed in 1624).

The Hall was badly damaged by bombing during the war. When the Rathaus was restored after the war, the Goldener Saal was not repaired to its original state, but left with a wooden ceiling, small doors and white plastered walls. It was used until the 1980s as an exhibition space. In the early 1980s, the council decided to renovate the Goldener Saal for the upcoming 2000th anniversary of the city in 1985. The room was redecorated according to historical drawings and photographs, starting with the basic reconstruction of the coffered ceiling, together with the painted ceilings, the floor and the doors. On 9 January 1985, the Hall was re-opened close to its former glory. Supported by numerous donations and the active interest of Augsburg, the murals and extensive gold jewellery that had once decorated the Hall were reinstated over subsequent years, and the hall was reopened a second time in 1996."
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Old September 16th, 2012, 05:54 PM   #882
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Old September 16th, 2012, 06:00 PM   #883
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Old September 16th, 2012, 06:00 PM   #884
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Man glaubt es kaum, aber hier tagt heute das Brandenburger Zentralkomitee







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Old September 16th, 2012, 06:26 PM   #885
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Schönste Städte = am meist vernichteten Städte

@Odoaker: super Bilder von die grossen Perlen von Einst:

1) Berlin Die Verlusten: riesig. Zwar überlebte die Mehrzahl der
Wohnhäuser aber die sehen heute nicht mehr so aus
wie vor dem Krieg. Alle "Grosse Architektur" ging verloren.
2) Hamburg Hier besonders schwere Verluste an Wohnhäuser. Viel
Schmuck und Details gingen verloren
3) Dresden Die wahrscheinlich am peinlichsten Verlust an Edle
Wohnbauten. War vor dem Krieg sehr Urban und dicht bebaut.
Es ist schrecklich wie mit dieser Stadt nach 1945 umgegangen ist.
4) Magdeburg Hier die fast ganze Stadt verloren & Resten Abgebrochen
5) Mannheim War sehr schöner Stadt: heute Überherrscht Mittelmässigkeit
6) Hannover wie Mannheim, aber hat heute auch schöne Viertel.
7) Frankfurt War vor dem Krieg Super! Heute: wenig historisch.
8) Breslau * Schwere Verluste am Gründerzeitl. Auusenbezirke
9) Nurnberg * Leider aufgebaut mit zu wenig Rekos am Zentralen Plätze.
10) Würzburg & Potsdam. 2 Superperlen D. Würzburg zwar im aussenformen
wiederaufgebaut, aber die Wohnhäuser allen zu schlicht.

Schön waren sicher auch: Leipzig, Chemnitz, Stettin, Kassel, Wiesbaden, Wuppertal, Mainz, Freiburg, Danzig, Aachen, Karlsruhe, Münster, Darmstadt und Braunschweig.

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Old September 16th, 2012, 06:45 PM   #886
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Cologne was in my eyes also a magnificent city with a lot of great buildings and houses.
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Old September 16th, 2012, 07:04 PM   #887
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That's the evangelical Heilig-Geist-Kirche, built in the 18th century. It's said that J.S. Bach gave a concert in this church.





I just can't find the right word to describe the structure that replaced it...



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The Catholic Peter-und-Paul-Kirche, built in the late 19th century. It was oreserved after the war.







Französische Kirche, preserved after the war, was one of Knobelsdorff's last works.







The baroque Garnisonkirche was not that lucky. The church was built under Frederick William I, King in Prussia, between 1731 and 1735.




(at least I can make a 3d recreation using this picture)





The church was damaged by bombing. The ruins were left standing until the late 1960s, when Walter Ulbricht gave the order to blow up the remains.



To finish, a lovely overview of Potsdam in the late 19th century.


(Bildindex/Commons)
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Old September 16th, 2012, 07:20 PM   #888
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Heilig-Geist-Kirche replacement really sucks balls, almost have to face this cruelty to mankind everyday

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Old September 16th, 2012, 08:24 PM   #889
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Some people just want to fill their own pockets up, that's how (which is a big shame) many architects are....
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Old September 17th, 2012, 12:08 AM   #890
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Potsdam, Stadtschloß































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Old September 17th, 2012, 12:09 AM   #891
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Potsdam, Stadtschloß




(As a musician, I wish I had a room like that)



















(from bildindex.de)

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Old September 17th, 2012, 05:21 AM   #892
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And this one, from the Potsdam City Palace reconstruction thread

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Eine Aufnahme aus den 1940ern aus dem Schlosshof:



Bilder von: Palantir/Stadtbild Deutschland (Dank auch an Kampflamm!)
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That's the evangelical Heilig-Geist-Kirche, built in the 18th century. It's said that J.S. Bach gave a concert in this church.
I can find the right word to describe that, but in deference to any children who might read this thread I won't use it here

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Richt word for "the thing" that replaced the HG K.

Perhaps "crap"?

Now "THEY" think of rebuilding the once slender Petri Kirche in Berlin (also blown up by the GDR like another dozen churches in Berlin) with a "thing" which must suppose to be "a replacement".

The Germans are totally dearranged about their past, behaving spastic and throwing away billions with pure CRAP instead of rebuilding some real gems out of hundreds of thousands of beautiful buildings lost (i think also forever). Each building built before 1945 which is demolished, will NEVER be rebuilt, but by crap.

Dresden, Berlin, Magdeburg offers real ugly and unworthy "replacements" for a once harmonic proud past. If only "Atlantik-wall" Architects were raised after the war and each building which showed a real roof or ornaments had to be razed to the ground or stripped off until a bunkerlike structure remains......

Luckily in Görlitz, Halle, Erfurt and Leipzig (all former GDR) some Germans became "sane" again and a little of the gigantic German pre-war cultural heritage is restored. Mostly however still without ornaments on the roof or in a "simplified" version of the past structure. So even when reconstructed the building can not in any way be compared with its predecessor!!!!
Furthermore each "reconstruction" has strange or odd additions to indicate the "modern" age. See Kommandantur in Berlin which has a new large glass garden window.
And when reconstruction is the case then something of an older than the NEO-age building is selected, carefully neglecting any signs of the Wilhelminian Period or the Reich itself!!!
Those Germans are paranoid in their reconstructions.....almost nothing great happened after 1945 and certainly nothing wich resembles for 100% the destructed building.......

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Very well said.
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German lost architectural gems

Berlin***/ Hamburg* / Köln*, Dresden**, Breslau, Frankfurt, Hannover* / Nürnberg, Wuppertal / Mannheim*, Stettin*, Chemnitz, Magdeburg*, Königsberg / Kassel*, Karlsruhe, Braunschweig, Münster, Mainz, Potsdam / Freiburg, Darmstadt, Würzburg*, Halberstadt, Pforzheim, Plauen, Heilbron (27).

Other architectural worthy cities were damaged in a way that they could be largely recovered.
Particularly destroyed were: main post office buildings, department stores, grand hotels, main stations, palaces, churches, ministry buildings, theaters, schools, courts of justice aso

* = irrecoverable large & great losses; ** = also huge losses.

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