Germany at the end of the 19th century / before WWII (historical photos) - Page 5

Svajoklis · December 29th, 2005, 06:11 PM

Wonderful! What an absurd amount of beautiful cities...they just don't build them like they used to. But I agree with Christos - I don't see why we can't. Many of these buildings were built of styles that were at least a century old if not more. But what one notices even more is the pleasing density of the buildings - they create wonderful atmospheric squares, streets and larger cityscapes. Compare this to the newer architecture in the DDR part of Berlin - flat, featuresless expanses punctuated by the occassional featureless box. Horrid. They should rebuild it all!

Giri · December 29th, 2005, 07:41 PM

That's just a matter of will and pride. Once architects understand there's no shame in imitating predecessors and when mayors develop a minimal architectural taste, Europe will be able to revive the glory of its destroyed towns.

♣628.finst · December 31st, 2005, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Svajoklis

Wonderful! What an absurd amount of beautiful cities...they just don't build them like they used to. But I agree with Christos - I don't see why we can't. Many of these buildings were built of styles that were at least a century old if not more. But what one notices even more is the pleasing density of the buildings - they create wonderful atmospheric squares, streets and larger cityscapes. Compare this to the newer architecture in the DDR part of Berlin - flat, featuresless expanses punctuated by the occassional featureless box. Horrid. They should rebuild it all!

True... I would like to see all German cities rebuild themselves with classical-styled architecture, and North American cities filled those skyscrapers. Germans don't need them, and they don't like them, but their DDR/FRG fathers (born in 1910s/1920s/1930s) love commieblocks.

lindenthaler · December 31st, 2005, 04:27 PM

Unfortunately this all remembers me on the book 1984, erasing the old history and replacing them with new structure, a big majority of people living here don't have idea hod did German cities looked like in pre-war times. It is sad there wasn't at least 80% reconstruction, if yes than only maybe marketplace or plain reconstruction in Nürnberg. When I am walking through cities here i always try to imagine how beautiful it was before... I hope sometimes in future the old glory will be restaurated!

HelloMoto163 · January 3rd, 2006, 06:36 PM

i found "new" pics about berlin 1929

alexanderplatz

mühlendamm

rathaus

marien-kirche

u-bahn inselbrücke

kaiser wilhelm brücke

neue wache

zueghaus und kronprinzenpalast

schauspielhaus

bahnhof friedrichstraße

verlaghaus mosse

potsdamer platz

warenhaus werthheim

französische straße

reichstag

kaiser wilhelm gedächtniskirche

august viktoria platz

tiergarten

Pizarro · January 3rd, 2006, 07:10 PM

Today's architects do not have a clear vision of how cities should be built. In their attempt to avoid copying older styles, they create extravagant and outrageous architecture which just does not fit in with the older buildings. They do not understand the concept of "ensemble". It is possible to create new styles of architecture, yet maintain the characteristic features of a certain area so that the new buildings do not clash or ruin the older ones. For example, Venice has seen many different types of architecture ranging from romanesque, gothic, renessance, etc. but in the end, all houses are still characteristically "Venetian". In Germany, there has been a positive creative architecture movement in the 1990's, but that seems to be dissappearing in favor of a more brutalist movement lately, more in line with the 1970's except with more glass. A positive example of newer architecture which still blends in can be found in the new buildings (1990's) in the Hackescher Markt in Berlin. I will come up with other (and better) examples later.

LoveCPH · January 3rd, 2006, 07:12 PM

Unseen photos... Thank you again moto

LuckyLuke · January 3rd, 2006, 07:46 PM

yeah I agree with you Piazrro. Hackescher Markt is a good example of nice modern architecture.

Some more nice modern/old architecture in Berlin.

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Source of pictures: http://www.aphforum.de

JohnnyMass · January 6th, 2006, 03:35 PM

can we be more stupid than this? human race should be banned of this earth.

AWESOME thread Kampy!

How is it possible that it took me this long to finally find it?

I had seen thousands of old black and white pics but this colored ones are just outstanding!!! Thanks a million!

For those who like old pics like myself, take a look at this:
www.bildindex.de
you are going to LOVE it!

HelloMoto163 · April 8th, 2006, 11:23 PM

http://www.koepenick.net/galerie-his...latzum1940.jpg

http://www.koepenick.net/galerie-his...rplatz1904.jpg

http://www.koepenick.net/galerie-his..._friedrich.jpg

http://www.koepenick.net/galerie-his...friedrich2.jpg

http://www.koepenick.net/galerie-his...s/zeughaus.jpg

http://www.koepenick.net/galerie-his...endid_1908.jpg

http://www.koepenick.net/galerie-his...pollo_1907.jpg

SaRaJeVo-City · April 9th, 2006, 02:26 AM

wow the architecture back then in germany was amazing, I seen buildings in other countries that are over 100 years old and they look like crap. Awesome post!

***VelesHomais*** · April 9th, 2006, 03:08 AM

Architecture of late 19th century was probably the peak of beauty of cities. Nothing of the modern crap can ever match it

SaRaJeVo-City · April 9th, 2006, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Mesofius

Architecture of late 19th century was probably the peak of beauty of cities. Nothing of the modern crap can ever match it

100% agree, well said. Everything now is glass and all that crap..

Kampflamm · April 9th, 2006, 12:49 PM

That's the thing. Most average people like old architecture and would prefer if new buildings were built in a somewhat more conservative way. But then architects come along and tell us that that would be kitsch and that new and exciting stuffs needs to include giant glass facades etc.

HelloMoto163 · April 11th, 2006, 07:42 PM

***VelesHomais*** · April 12th, 2006, 04:10 AM

I don't understand why can't we copy that architecture again? Doesn't even have to be reconstructions, but building entirely new buildings in resemblance of late 19th and early 20th centuries architecture.

So what that it's kitch - if it looks good? After all, it's for the people, not classifications of whether its kitch or not.

Das Tier · April 25th, 2006, 08:58 PM

@ Kampflamm

Wo hast Du denn die Bilder von der ersten Seite her? Ich bin mal dem Link gefolgt, aber da kann man sie sich leider nicht richtig (z.B.: nach Städten sortiert) anschauen, sieht mir eher so aus als ob sie nur dort auf dem Server liegen. Gibt es zu den Bildern nicht auch eine übersichtliche Website?

LuckyLuke · June 28th, 2006, 01:01 AM

nice photo of Cologne at the end of the 19th century

Tiaren · June 29th, 2006, 06:10 PM

Awww...makes me wanna cry...

To all modern architects:
This was true beauty!

Kampflamm · July 18th, 2006, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Wo hast Du denn die Bilder von der ersten Seite her? Ich bin mal dem Link gefolgt, aber da kann man sie sich leider nicht richtig (z.B.: nach Städten sortiert) anschauen, sieht mir eher so aus als ob sie nur dort auf dem Server liegen. Gibt es zu den Bildern nicht auch eine übersichtliche Website?

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/pp/pgzquery.html und dann nach Städten suchen.

Quite a few pics: http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/...::SortBy=DOCID

December 29th, 2005, 07:41 PM	#82
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JohnnyMass Whatever Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Porto Posts: 45,807 Likes (Received): 195	can we be more stupid than this? human race should be banned of this earth. AWESOME thread Kampy! How is it possible that it took me this long to finally find it? I had seen thousands of old black and white pics but this colored ones are just outstanding!!! Thanks a million! For those who like old pics like myself, take a look at this: www.bildindex.de you are going to LOVE it! __________________ Edit my Signature Last edited by JohnnyMass; January 6th, 2006 at 03:58 PM.

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*VelesHomais* aspiring cyborg Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NYC \| KYIV \| MINSK Posts: 18,755 Likes (Received): 250	Architecture of late 19th century was probably the peak of beauty of cities. Nothing of the modern crap can ever match it __________________ The Future Is Now - join us for intellectually stimulating and informative discussions

December 29th, 2005, 06:11 PM	#81
Svajoklis Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 316 Likes (Received): 0	Wonderful! What an absurd amount of beautiful cities...they just don't build them like they used to. But I agree with Christos - I don't see why we can't. Many of these buildings were built of styles that were at least a century old if not more. But what one notices even more is the pleasing density of the buildings - they create wonderful atmospheric squares, streets and larger cityscapes. Compare this to the newer architecture in the DDR part of Berlin - flat, featuresless expanses punctuated by the occassional featureless box. Horrid. They should rebuild it all!

January 3rd, 2006, 06:36 PM	#85
HelloMoto163 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Berlin Posts: 446 Likes (Received): 2	i found "new" pics about berlin 1929 alexanderplatz mühlendamm rathaus marien-kirche u-bahn inselbrücke kaiser wilhelm brücke neue wache zueghaus und kronprinzenpalast schauspielhaus bahnhof friedrichstraße verlaghaus mosse potsdamer platz warenhaus werthheim französische straße reichstag kaiser wilhelm gedächtniskirche august viktoria platz tiergarten

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Pizarro Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Evansville, INDIANA USA Posts: 16 Likes (Received): 0	Today's architects do not have a clear vision of how cities should be built. In their attempt to avoid copying older styles, they create extravagant and outrageous architecture which just does not fit in with the older buildings. They do not understand the concept of "ensemble". It is possible to create new styles of architecture, yet maintain the characteristic features of a certain area so that the new buildings do not clash or ruin the older ones. For example, Venice has seen many different types of architecture ranging from romanesque, gothic, renessance, etc. but in the end, all houses are still characteristically "Venetian". In Germany, there has been a positive creative architecture movement in the 1990's, but that seems to be dissappearing in favor of a more brutalist movement lately, more in line with the 1970's except with more glass. A positive example of newer architecture which still blends in can be found in the new buildings (1990's) in the Hackescher Markt in Berlin. I will come up with other (and better) examples later.

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LuckyLuke ***** Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Berlin Posts: 1,442	yeah I agree with you Piazrro. Hackescher Markt is a good example of nice modern architecture. Some more nice modern/old architecture in Berlin. [/quote] Source of pictures: http://www.aphforum.de

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*VelesHomais* aspiring cyborg Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NYC \| KYIV \| MINSK Posts: 18,755 Likes (Received): 250	I don't understand why can't we copy that architecture again? Doesn't even have to be reconstructions, but building entirely new buildings in resemblance of late 19th and early 20th centuries architecture. So what that it's kitch - if it looks good? After all, it's for the people, not classifications of whether its kitch or not. __________________ The Future Is Now - join us for intellectually stimulating and informative discussions

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