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Old November 25th, 2012, 10:12 PM   #1041
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Danzig was a beautiful German city that day, he said nothing false, nothing Nazi.
Stop reacting like that. If you have nothing useful to add here, then censor yourself!

And please stop with the stupid Nazi/Hitler stuff.
Thank you. Danzig was a German city. After 78 years, people need to get a grip if they find this offensive and move on with their lives. It reminds me of some Southerners who are still fighting the US Civil War. After a while they just look ridiculous.
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Old November 25th, 2012, 10:16 PM   #1042
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And to make things perfectly clear, the name of this thread is
Germany at the end of the 19th century / before WWII (historical photos)

and the first line of the author was:
I also included cities which were German back then but are now located in other countries. Anyway, enjoy these pics
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Old November 25th, 2012, 10:22 PM   #1043
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And to make things perfectly clear, the name of this thread is
Germany at the end of the 19th century / before WWII (historical photos)

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I also included cities which were German back then but are now located in other countries. Anyway, enjoy these pics
Thanks for posting. The aerials are amazing.
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Old November 25th, 2012, 10:25 PM   #1044
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Great travelogues, by the way. Thank you for posting!
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Old November 26th, 2012, 12:01 AM   #1045
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By the late 19th century, the area around Wilhelmplatz had evolved into an aristocratic quarter where plenty of mansions could be found. 1872, the palace of Voß family at Wilhelmplatz was demolished to open a new avenue. Bismarck's chancellery was just around the corner (in the former palace of the Princely House of Radziwiłł) and predictably, this street rose in importance. The legations onf Saxony, Bavaria and Württemberg were built in the northern side, and wealthy people also settled there.

The entire northern side (Palais Borsig being the exception) was demolished to build a new chancellery conplex in the late 1930s. Only a single building was left standing after the war.

Left to right: Voßstraße 19 (Sächsische Gesandtschaft, Legation of Saxony), 18, 17, 16...







Voßstraße 13, 12, 11. The Legation of Württemberg had already been demolished.



Voßstraße No. 33, 34, 35, Wilhelmstraße 79- 80 and Leipziger Straße 124-25 all housed Reichsbahn offices. Voßstraße 33 and Leipziger Straße 125 are the only structures in the entire block that survived the war and were not demolished afterwards.

Voßstraße 33


A impressing shot of Palais Mosse (Voßstraße 22)



Palais Mosse (Leipziger Platz 15)



A photograph of Leipziger Platz 14 / Voßstraße 23 as seen from where Mosse Palais once stood, taken after the war (???)

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Old November 26th, 2012, 12:14 AM   #1046
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Stettin - As it would have looked today without destruction



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Old November 26th, 2012, 05:55 AM   #1047
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Great pictures, thank you for sharing them!
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Old November 26th, 2012, 09:57 AM   #1048
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Where are these impressive Stettin visualizations coming from?


I'd love to see this being done for several German cities.
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Old November 26th, 2012, 11:05 AM   #1049
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Mimostudio has made the visualizations



http://mimostudio.pl/#!p1[g2]/0/
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Old November 26th, 2012, 11:14 AM   #1050
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Stettin - As it would have looked today without destruction
Except the Polish signs.
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Old November 26th, 2012, 11:19 AM   #1051
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History is not over yet.
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Old November 26th, 2012, 11:46 AM   #1052
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Poland and German history.

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History is not over yet.
You lose a war, the victors decide your destiny and eventual territorial loss. That is why wars sucks for the losing part.

PS: Remember, Poland was among the so called "victors", but still due to Stalin and the Soviet Union, it lost half of its pre-war territory (Including the city of Lwow) and more importantly its freedom for 40 years. Poland was the great loser of WWII and its greatest victim. Till this day it still recovers from the wounds of 1939-1945 and 40 years of communisme.

If you help us regain Lwow, Grodno and the Vilnius area (where poles stand a majority), then we can begin discussing about giving Breslau, Stettin and Elbing back and help you reconcurring Konigsberg.

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Old November 26th, 2012, 01:37 PM   #1053
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deal, if we can solve this problem without military conflicts. Germany has no mentionable army anymore.
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Old November 26th, 2012, 02:12 PM   #1055
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And why 600 years of European history (common polish-german (prussian, Silesian)) was erased by a maniac named Stalin.

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Old November 26th, 2012, 03:04 PM   #1056
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I'd love to see this being done for several German cities.
You know, it was my dream to recreate the entire Potsdamer Platz, Pariser Platz and Schloßplatz areas, but until now only the Stadtschloss has been finished.

More Berlin, this time, paintings by Eduard Gaertner. They're almost like photographs.

Klosterßstraße



Stadtschloss, Eosanderhof





Stadtschloss, Schlüterhof

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Old November 26th, 2012, 03:45 PM   #1057
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If you help us regain Lwow, Grodno and the Vilnius area (where poles stand a majority), then we can begin discussing about giving Breslau, Stettin and Elbing back and help you reconcurring Konigsberg.
Let's be reasonable. All boundary changes in Poland, Lithuania, Belarus, Czech Republic, etc. should go through the referendum (a simple majority vote).

Germans in Poland (Opole/Oppeln Voivodeship)


Poles in Lithuania


Poles in Belarus


Poles in Czech Republic (Zaolzie)


If Catalans and Scots can do it, why not others? We can make changes peacefully without ethnic cleansing and expulsions.
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Old November 26th, 2012, 07:09 PM   #1058
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Wow......Stettin was more beautiful before her destruction then I've ever thought.....
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If Catalans and Scots can do it, why not others? We can make changes peacefully without ethnic cleansing and expulsions.
And then what? you see- the difference between Scots/ Catalans and Poles/Germans, that Scots/Catalans trying to create their own states... so do poles?

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And then what? you see- the difference between Scots/ Catalans and Poles/Germans, that Scots/Catalans trying to create their own states... so do poles?
Some areas, where Polish population is majority, are very close to the Polish border, so people should have a right to vote if they want to be attached to the rest of the country.
Simples, like meerkat Orlov says
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