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Old August 26th, 2013, 04:51 AM   #1561
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Those photos of the Reichstag are fascinating. When I visited a few years ago I was surprised to see it rising out of a large expanse of grass - without the usual structure of landscaping, buildings and the details of urban life in a great metropolis. Then, directly behind it, I found the Brandenburger Tor and the Unter den Linden and the heart of a great city.

Berlin was a constant series of surprises, unlike any other great city I have visited. One moment I was thinking of the tragedies and transformation of war and division in the twentieth century. Then I was thinking how much parts of Berlin looks like Manhattan. A very vibrant and exciting place. And the climate is superb.
Well said. I'm French and Italian living in the USA but I agree, Berlin is one of the greatest cities on the planet. There's something about the city that never ceases to amaze. I like the analogy to New York City. I think that Berlin became a major city at about the same time as America's great cities -- Chicago and New York - and it reminds me very much of these places.
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Old August 26th, 2013, 07:48 AM   #1562
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Well said. I'm French and Italian living in the USA but I agree, Berlin is one of the greatest cities on the planet. There's something about the city that never ceases to amaze. I like the analogy to New York City. I think that Berlin became a major city at about the same time as America's great cities -- Chicago and New York - and it reminds me very much of these places.
Thanks - yes, it is dynamic and exciting. History is everywhere but it is also a city of the future.

If you know Manhattan, the area along the Unter den Linden just south of the Brandenburger Tor reminded me of the Upper East Side.
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Old August 27th, 2013, 11:20 AM   #1563
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Old August 27th, 2013, 12:04 PM   #1564
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It's a shame that the Germans themselves destroyed Karstadt at Hermannplatz...
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Old August 27th, 2013, 12:40 PM   #1565
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The neo-Gothic "Disneyland" castle in Marienburg built after 1816 was spectacular, the pearl of historicist architecture. However, it's worth to mention how it looked like before the neo-Gothic fantasy conversion.

Marienburg Castle in 1802


The castle served as one of the several Polish royal residences between 1457 and 1772. Prior to the partitions of Poland exteriors and interiors of the complex were mostly Baroque (with some preserved Gothic and Renaissance elements).
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Old August 27th, 2013, 11:27 PM   #1566
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Karstadt Hermannplatz

Jeromeee: I wrote to karstadt a mail asking them if there were plans to rebuilt the pittyful current remains of Karstadt to its prewar glory. They denied that they had plans to rebuilt the building which once was so rich and great. That is a damned shame!!

Germany is full of pityful remains of once huge and great buildings. What remains is a shadow of the original building.

The (once) huge ministry of traffic in Munich.......
The jonce glorious palace of justice in Magdeburg......
The once immense and impressive Landgerichte in Berlin Mitte, Leipzig, Dresden,
The University buildings in Darmstadt and Aachen
The once impressive townhalls in Kassel, Wuppertal-Barmen, Schöneberg, Spandau,
The Ruhrknappgesellschaft in Bochum
The many huge factory main buildings in Berlin (Siemensstadt), Karlsruhe, Bremen, Essen (Krupp) aso.
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Old August 28th, 2013, 06:39 AM   #1567
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yes, it is pitiful that the buildings destroyed, that were intended to have
100+ year lives, are generally not going to be rebuilt. But, new generations have no clue of the value of the past. The education systems worldwide do not herald past wisdom, glory, values, and creations; rather, pop culture and hip hop that comes from street-emotions of those who wallow in momentary mental buzzes. I'm all for momentary buzzes, but to make a life of them is admitting being lost in human history.
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Old August 28th, 2013, 07:35 AM   #1568
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These are some amazing pictures you have out there...where'd you get all these.
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Old August 28th, 2013, 08:40 PM   #1569
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It's a shame that the Germans themselves destroyed Karstadt at Hermannplatz...
Germans are really good in destroying their architectural heritage.
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Old August 28th, 2013, 09:47 PM   #1570
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Old August 28th, 2013, 10:03 PM   #1571
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How Stettin could have looked today if it wasn´t bombed in 1943


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maybe....very nice pic....
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Old August 29th, 2013, 05:41 AM   #1573
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Germans are really good in destroying their architectural heritage.
Actually, Churchill was much better at it than any German I am aware of.
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Actually, Churchill was much better at it than any German I am aware of.
The Soviet leaders beat them all.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 12:26 PM   #1575
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How Stettin could have looked today if it wasn´t bombed in 1943
Very nice public space. Interestingly, most of these buildings on the photo are quite mediocre rent-houses from 19th century (plus early modernism/neo-classicism from ca. 1910).
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Old August 29th, 2013, 08:13 PM   #1576
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Very nice public space. Interestingly, most of these buildings on the photo are quite mediocre rent-houses from 19th century (plus early modernism/neo-classicism from ca. 1910).
It just shows how big potential is in even medicore historical architecture.
Gettin even drop of this liveability from most modernist plazas/public space designs is almost imposible.
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Old August 30th, 2013, 12:10 AM   #1577
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Very nice public space. Interestingly, most of these buildings on the photo are quite mediocre rent-houses from 19th century (plus early modernism/neo-classicism from ca. 1910).
I count 6-7 buildings in the drawing and none are modernist or mediocre. Plus, 19th century designs/construction account for a huge percentage of heritage buildings lost in WWII.

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Old August 30th, 2013, 02:25 AM   #1578
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Nice detail that the render even has grafitti (in Polish)
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Interesting picture. Do you have similar from other ciities?

How does the same area in Stettin look today?
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Old August 30th, 2013, 03:06 PM   #1580
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I count 6-7 buildings in the drawing and none are modernist or mediocre.
Seems that you can't recognise early modernism (I'll help you: it's this 2nd from the left) and you can't recognise mediocre 19th century rent houses (most of the others in the centre and right side of the picture).

Besides, there is 14 buildings on this picture, not 6 or 7. Perhaps you skipped some of them
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