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Old October 30th, 2015, 02:49 PM   #1761
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Old October 30th, 2015, 03:28 PM   #1762
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Old November 9th, 2015, 11:58 PM   #1763
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I have also XIX photos from Zurich and Wien, but this is Germany thread.
Better don't post it. If you start posting German-speaking cities from outside Germany (understood as Wilhelminian 2nd Reich as of 1.08.1914) soon there will be lots of Frenchmen here reclaiming Metz and Strasburg and, more important, Poles reclaiming Poznań (soft version), Wrocław, Gdańsk and Szczecin (hard version), Essen and Dortmund (very hard version)

Anyway, better stick to political borders. German and Austro-Hungarian architecture from before 1914 is much different. Maybe it isn't very strongly visible on the border between Austria and Bavaria, it shifts very slowly and gradually, but after all one can easily feel this difference, even somebody who isn't much into history of art. It's possible to recognise 19th century Berlin from Vienna. Not to mention Hamburg from Zurich. Or Poznań from Kraków
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Old November 10th, 2015, 12:58 AM   #1764
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Old November 10th, 2015, 03:01 AM   #1765
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Anyway, better stick to political borders. German and Austro-Hungarian architecture from before 1914 is much different. Maybe it isn't very strongly visible on the border between Austria and Bavaria, it shifts very slowly and gradually, but after all one can easily feel this difference, even somebody who isn't much into history of art. It's possible to recognise 19th century Berlin from Vienna. Not to mention Hamburg from Zurich. Or Poznań from Kraków
This differents have very little to do with state borders. One could also easily distinguish Munich and Hamburg, even Nuremberg and Munich although both are in Bavaria (the state! cool down Franconians ). On the other hand, wilhemine architecture in Stettin, Posen or Breslau is typical prussian which can also be seen in Halle, Magdeburg or Berlin.
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Old November 11th, 2015, 05:24 PM   #1766
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This differents have very little to do with state borders. One could also easily distinguish Munich and Hamburg, even Nuremberg and Munich although both are in Bavaria (the state! cool down Franconians ). On the other hand, wilhemine architecture in Stettin, Posen or Breslau is typical prussian which can also be seen in Halle, Magdeburg or Berlin.
If I'm not mistaken, the construction regulation was at that time mostly regulated by the Staat, not by Reich. Therefore differences between Prussia and Bavaria are obvious: they might belonged to the same Reich, but they never were the same Staat.

Actually, there is one thing I would like to ask you, because you would certainly know the answer: how would you describe the cultural landscape of "Prussian Saxonia", which culturally was the part of Saxony, but politically annexed by Prussia in 1815. After 100 years of intensive construction, just before outbreak of WWI: is it closer to Prussia proper or to the Saxony?
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Old November 11th, 2015, 11:00 PM   #1767
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Difficult. We have to consider, that the regions annexed by Prussia in 1815 were very heterogenous. Lower and northern Upper Lusatia for example already resembled in many ways more the Mark Brandenburg than its bordering, hilly saxon regions. So I would say the process of "Prussianizing" was easier there and more successfull than in other annexed territories. Yet, they were put in the prussian Province of Brandenburg and Silesia, not in the Province of Saxony like the other parts.

Wittenberg, Torgau or Delitzsch (last both since 1990 part of Saxony again) for example are so quintessentially Saxon cities that it is impossible not to see that. The Prussian influence is of course visible too. They used for example less typical sandstone or porphyry than saxon cities although not far away from the border.
Halle was of course prussian even before 1815. Yet, I'm still impressed by the sharp difference between historism in Halle and in nearby Leipzig.

But the most crucial point maybe is, that the Prussians turned the castles in Torgau and Wittenberg into barracks. Whereas Saxony, especially after 1871, built huge barrack areals all over the country.

So to conclude, I would say its a question of perspective. Cities which were far away of post 1815 Saxony adopt prussian style and culture faster than cities nearby the remaining Saxon state.
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Old November 17th, 2015, 12:45 PM   #1768
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If I'm not mistaken, the construction regulation was at that time mostly regulated by the Staat, not by Reich. Therefore differences between Prussia and Bavaria are obvious: they might belonged to the same Reich, but they never were the same Staat.

Actually, there is one thing I would like to ask you, because you would certainly know the answer: how would you describe the cultural landscape of "Prussian Saxonia", which culturally was the part of Saxony, but politically annexed by Prussia in 1815. After 100 years of intensive construction, just before outbreak of WWI: is it closer to Prussia proper or to the Saxony?
Absolutely right. Even the German quarter in Strasbourg doesn't show a German architecture you would also find a few kilometers away on the other side of the Rhine river. The french influence is obvious also in architecture built in German era.

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Difficult. We have to consider, that the regions annexed by Prussia in 1815 were very heterogenous. Lower and northern Upper Lusatia for example already resembled in many ways more the Mark Brandenburg than its bordering, hilly saxon regions. So I would say the process of "Prussianizing" was easier there and more successfull than in other annexed territories. Yet, they were put in the prussian Province of Brandenburg and Silesia, not in the Province of Saxony like the other parts.

Wittenberg, Torgau or Delitzsch (last both since 1990 part of Saxony again) for example are so quintessentially Saxon cities that it is impossible not to see that. The Prussian influence is of course visible too. They used for example less typical sandstone or porphyry than saxon cities although not far away from the border.
Halle was of course prussian even before 1815. Yet, I'm still impressed by the sharp difference between historism in Halle and in nearby Leipzig.

But the most crucial point maybe is, that the Prussians turned the castles in Torgau and Wittenberg into barracks. Whereas Saxony, especially after 1871, built huge barrack areals all over the country.

So to conclude, I would say its a question of perspective. Cities which were far away of post 1815 Saxony adopt prussian style and culture faster than cities nearby the remaining Saxon state.
The use of stucco for the cladding did not depend on state regulations but on absence of sandstone quarries in the nearer area.
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Old November 17th, 2015, 06:01 PM   #1769
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So why do we have a massive use of Stucco in Halle, but not in Leipzig? Can't be the distance to natural stone ressources.
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Old November 25th, 2015, 01:51 PM   #1770
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@ Saxonia: maybe Leipzig was richer so that here they could use the more expensive sandstone? Here I will post of some old postcards from dresden from my galery of arstempano (now maybe around 300 postcards in 3 sections). Here is one link to the old dresden from above. To collect old postcards its like the same to drink to much alc ...


Narrenhäusel / Neustadt


Rathaus / Neustadt


Hauptstraße Neustadt


panorama of Dresden with Carolabrücke /Panorama of Dresden


Königsufer / Panorama of Dresden


Königsufer / Bogenschütze / Panorama of Dresden


Ausstellungshalle / Stübelplatz - Galerie Vorstädte


Pulvermühle an der Weißeritz / Galerie Vorstädte


Kaiserpalast am Pirnaischen Platz / Galerie Altstädter Ring


Zentraltheater / GalerieAltstädter Ring


Rathaus am Friedrichsring / Galerie Altstädter Ring

more from many other galerys of my website arstemapano in the next days
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Old March 25th, 2016, 01:14 PM   #1772
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Виды хорошие, мы вот руками такое делаем..

В основном конечно на заказ, бывает что музеи заказывают, делаем в разных масштабах, хотели бы себе на стол миниатюру?)
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Old April 5th, 2016, 07:54 PM   #1775
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Old April 5th, 2016, 10:36 PM   #1776
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the 2 buildings with the towers facing each others, those are some beauties, Im out of words. I guess the space for one of these is still empty... Such a beauty. Im just glad I have never seen pictures of interior..
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There is a similar building in Russia: link
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This one is a HUGE loss.
Not that the other ones are not.
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^ Yes indeed, the 1905 Schumann-Theater (Circus Schumann) of Frankfurt was one of the finest Art Nouveau buildings of its kind. Too bad it's gone. Though I see a slight chance it'll be reconstructed one day, it was right across the Central Station at the rounded Station Square.


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