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Old May 23rd, 2017, 10:46 PM   #1901
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Well, at least this view is back:

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Old May 24th, 2017, 01:35 AM   #1902
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And all thanks to adorable reconstructions, initiated by the proud citizens of Dresden!
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Old May 24th, 2017, 03:35 AM   #1903
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It makes me so very sad everytime I open this thread with each new batch of photos of German cities lost in the war. Such great loss, I hope that humanity learns its lesson.
Unfortunately, not so far. sigh
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Old May 24th, 2017, 04:03 AM   #1904
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Unfortunately, not so far. sigh
I think Europe at least learned a lot from WWII, especially Germany. The continent, and Germany in particular, is very pacifist, a marked turn around from the beginning of the 20th century, where they were practically baying for each other's blood in a lot of places. There are tensions, sure, and a moderate rise in nationalistic sentiment, but I don't think this is likely to translate into inter-European conflict. The collapse of the Yogoslavia and the Soviet Union resulted in conflict a few decades ago, yes, but even those areas are mediating themselves. That said, Russia is unpredictable and I have no doubt Serbia would invade Kosovo if given the chance.
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Old May 24th, 2017, 10:40 AM   #1905
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All true, but let's not get too much into geopolitical predictions here.
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Old May 24th, 2017, 10:38 PM   #1906
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Old May 25th, 2017, 02:21 AM   #1907
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Wonderful video! Viewing the old city from street level like that really demonstrates the beauty of it all Very sad.

Fortunately, there are renewed calls for reconstructions in Dresden! The Semperclub wishes for the reconstruction of the Palais Oppenheim near the Burgerwiese, citing that it was a valuable example of neoclassical architecture in Germany, and was an important centre of Jewish culture. This comes amidst plans to redevelop the Lignerstadt in modern form.



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Old May 25th, 2017, 11:50 AM   #1908
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Hello Everybody. I would like to thanks this forum....I just came back from a trip in Germany, i have visited nurnberg, and to be honest i hoped to find more old architecture. city is still nice, but i have seen many horrible buildings in the center that ruins the view...Thanks to this forum i can see how beautiful the city was before the war...It's really a pity that they don't rebuild more historical buildings.. I think Munchen did a better job... Some buildings, especially architecture of '50 are really a punch in the eye...
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Old May 25th, 2017, 12:21 PM   #1909
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Hello Everybody. I would like to thanks this forum....I just came back from a trip in Germany, i have visited nurnberg, and to be honest i hoped to find more old architecture. city is still nice, but i have seen many horrible buildings in the center that ruins the view...Thanks to this forum i can see how beautiful the city was before the war...It's really a pity that they don't rebuild more historical buildings.. I think Munchen did a better job... Some buildings, especially architecture of '50 are really a punch in the eye...
The sad thing is it would be quite easy to restore a lot of the buildings in Nuremberg to their pre-war appearance if only the money was there. Because politicians will almost never commit to this kind of work, funds can only be raised through public donation, or, alternatively, investors, should they make the unlikely decision to restore a building.
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Old May 26th, 2017, 03:53 AM   #1910
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Poznan/Posen:








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(There are ongoing plans to reconstruct this fountain. The original mysteriously disappeared during in the war, likely stolen so that its copper could be melted down for use.)




Overall the Poles did a great job in reconstructing Poznan, and it looks to be a very charming city. I have no doubt, though, that they removed traces of its German history, like they did in other formerly German cities. Unfortunately, the river that passed by the old town was diverted to the east in the 1960s. As such, there is an odd gulf between the old town and the water front.

Szczecin was less successful, but is still very nice and would be even nicer if they restored the buildings in its centre, which have all become varying shades of brown with time
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Old May 28th, 2017, 10:16 AM   #1911
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I have no doubt, though, that they removed traces of its German history, like they did in other formerly German cities.
Maybe I didn't understood you correctly, but do you consider Poznan to be historically German city? There are many formely German cities in Poland today (Danzig, Breslau, Stetten), but Poznan is not one of them, as far as I'm concerned (although I appreciate and acknowledge richness that some polish cities got under german time).

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There are ongoing plans to reconstruct this fountain. The original mysteriously disappeared during in the war, likely stolen so that its copper could be melted down for use.
Same situation happenned in Bydgoszcz (Bromberg) with "Flut" fountain made by Ferdinand Lepcke. German soldiers melted it for ammunition during II world war. We managed to rebuild it in 2014.



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Maybe I didn't understood you correctly, but do you consider Poznan to be historically German city? There are many formely German cities in Poland today (Danzig, Breslau, Stetten), but Poznan is not one of them, as far as I'm concerned (although I appreciate and acknowledge richness that some polish cities got under german time).
I didn't say Poznan was historically German in the proper sense, only that whatever traces they left were likely removed in the reconstruction phases. And traces definitely did exist. Poznan had a strong German minority (and thus influence) since the Middle Ages, and was absorbed by Prussia in the 1840s. Policies of Germanisation, especially after unification in 1870, resulted in a marked increase in the German population. I think I've read somewhere that towards the end of the 19th century, the Germans made up more than 50% of Poznan's population. In the rapid growth of the industrial period, the German influence definitely would have shown, and very probably would have been removed after WWII.

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Same situation happenned in Bydgoszcz (Bromberg) with "Flut" fountain made by Ferdinand Lepcke. German soldiers melted it for ammunition during II world war. We managed to rebuild it in 2014.

Wonderful to hear it was been restored! Beautiful.
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Old May 31st, 2017, 12:45 AM   #1916
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Any rich investors here?
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Old May 31st, 2017, 02:26 AM   #1917
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Any rich investors here?
I wish. If only Bill Gates had an intense interest in Dresden
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Cranz (Zelenogradsk), East Prussia


Cranz - Corso 1911 by Bernhard Waldmann, en Flickr


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Old May 31st, 2017, 09:44 AM   #1919
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Today it's almost certainly the ugliest formerly-German city, and perhaps one of the ugliest in Europe.





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I've heard some people say Konigsberg was no great loss architecturally, and I really really have to disagree. It looked to be an amazing city, especially with all that water. The upside is that so much of the old town could be easily reconstructed if Kaliningrad had any money (which it really doesn't, unfortunately) because the city has so much open land, especially around the centre, which means far fewer costs in regards to demolition. It's essentially what Dresden was before reunification. I really hope that plans to reconstruct the centre come to fruition at some point, because there's so much potential for Kaliningrad to be beautiful.
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