Bay Area Photo Gallery - Page 5

bagel · May 21st, 2005, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 612bv3

Panama-Pacific International Exposition, 1915

Don't you wish most of these buildings weren't demolished. A lot of these building were extremely gorgeous, they'll be truly missed.

Thanks for posting those wondeful pics. I believe the reason why those buildings didn't survive is because those buildings were designed to be temporary. I remember seeing a display about them at the Exploratorium as they restored the Fine Arts Palace. Most of the fantastic and whimsical buildings were actually just built of wood and plaster and not of any permanent material. In fact, because the muses on the Palace of Fine Arts were carved from wood, all of them had deteriorated to a point where they were barely recognizable as muses at close range. I believe they are putting new resin or fiberglass muses to replace the original ones.

Monkey · May 21st, 2005, 09:53 AM

O man, you're always so totally on the ball, boyhaha!

True, I'm sure many of the buildings erected for the Panama-Pacific Exposition long ago weren't meant to last. And, to tell you the truth, in some cases (e. g. Maryland, North Dakota) I'm not exactly crushed that they didn't.

On the other hand, I wouldn't have minded keeping the Fountain of Ceres around.

But San Francisco is fortunate to still have the Palace of Fine Arts and should go to some lengths to preserve it.

I'm currently working on a photo thread which will be short on narrative & show a melange of pix from at least 2 photographers.

So some of the Palace's original statuary is decaying? After close to 100 years of sea air and salty breezes and fog so close to the water, that's hardly surprising. Maybeck (Bernard M, the architect of the Palace) actually believed in building things so they'd last. I heard he was the first to introduce industrial sash windows (both at the First Church of Christ Scientist, which occupies a special category in the National Register of Historic Places, and several of the homes in North Berkeley). Solid iron! Thick, solid glass!

I'll be elated if the City and County of San Francisco manages to keep the p[a]lace up, although I suspect space rental can't quite pay for the maintenance.

Monkey · May 21st, 2005, 10:38 AM

Edit:

Sorry. Something misfired here.

bagel · May 22nd, 2005, 01:51 AM

I did some more research. There's a lot of good information here: http://www.parks.sfgov.org/site/recp...x.asp?id=25553

What we see today at the Palace of Fine Arts is a concrete shaped from casts of the original plaster Palace of the PPIE.

The restoration has 3 parts.
The first part is finished... restoration of elements and leaky roof of the dome. This includes replacement of the wooden muses. The muses are on continuing display at the Exploratorium (at least they were there last August). The muses looked like weatherworn driftwood.

Part 2 is consists of a seismic retrofit and the restoration of the lagoon.

Part 3 is the restoration of the building surrounding the rotunda (where the Exploratorium is currently housed).

From the website:
Designed by Bernard Maybeck and built in 1915 as part of the Panama Pacific International Exposition, the Palace of Fine Arts is the sole structure to remain. The original Palace and its grounds, built of plaster and expected to last several years at most, stood for over thirty five years. Deterioration over time occurred, and attempts to preserve the structure failed. A reconstruction effort occurred between 1964 and 1972. For cost reasons, the entire 1915 scheme was not executed, and the architectural and plating elements surrounding all elevations of the Main Building were not built. For more information on the history, visit www.maybeck.org.

What stands today are concrete and steel elements, made from casts of the original structure, therefore reflecting the true Maybeck design in architectural form. The lagoon shape is also true to the original design. The site has been designated as San Francisco Landmark No. 88 in 1977, and through the efforts of the Maybeck Foundation, is currently being nominated to The National Register of Historic Places. The Campaign to Restore the Palace of Fine Arts is being led by the Maybeck Foundation. For information on how you can become a donor or get involved, visit www.savethepalace.org or call 415/474-0172

A lot of great information on the above websites.

naughtyins0mniac · May 27th, 2005, 02:01 AM

hold on..

san francisco

ok go on with the topic..

612bv3 · May 27th, 2005, 02:12 AM

I posted those pictures on page 2 except the 3rd and the 4th pic. Did you get them at the same website I did?

Palal · May 27th, 2005, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 612bv3

Panama-Pacific International Exposition, 1915

Don't you wish most of these buildings weren't demolished. A lot of these building were extremely gorgeous, they'll be truly missed.

The reason why they were demolished, as I'm sure you know, is that they were built of plaster. Later, the Palace of Fine Arts dome was rebuilt with concrete.

naughtyins0mniac · May 28th, 2005, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 612bv3

I posted those pictures on page 2 except the 3rd and the 4th pic. Did you get them at the same website I did?

maybe. theyre from this website. i removed them already..

612bv3 · May 28th, 2005, 01:40 AM

Yup, we got it from the same website.

No need to remove them...

Monkey · May 31st, 2005, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boybaha

I did some more research. There's a lot of good information here: http://www.parks.sfgov.org/site/recp...x.asp?id=25553
...

...

A big round of

to boybaha for finding out all this additional information about the Palace and sharing it with us.

Q-TIP · May 31st, 2005, 04:28 PM

is that last photo an aerial of SF airport or Oakland's?

612bv3 · June 1st, 2005, 12:38 AM

^ That would be SFO, San Francisco International Airport. I love how the terminal's are all organized in a circle.

streetscapeer · June 1st, 2005, 05:53 PM

we need more pics!

naughtyins0mniac · June 2nd, 2005, 01:03 AM

Oakland

San Francisco

Pacifica

South San Francisco

Burlingame

SFO

San Jose Airport

San Jose

612bv3 · June 2nd, 2005, 05:08 AM

How old are those pic insomniac? It looks like there hasn't been any progress in Mineta San Jose International Airport, I thought they were constructing a new terminal.

612bv3 · June 2nd, 2005, 05:12 AM

612bv3 · June 2nd, 2005, 05:18 AM

THE BRIDGE THAT'S COSTING US BILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND IT'S TAKING FOREVER TO BE BUILT!

Monkey · June 2nd, 2005, 08:41 AM

Ah ... you mean THAT thing, bv3!

Thank you for posting the pix

but somehow I'm totally disillusioned with that project.

naughtyins0mniac · June 3rd, 2005, 06:52 AM

i dont really know how old those pictures are.

bout that thing, dont call it a bridge!!

naughtyins0mniac · June 4th, 2005, 02:00 AM

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May 22nd, 2005, 01:51 AM	#84
bagel Member, Winifred Fan Club Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 2,381 Likes (Received): 3	I did some more research. There's a lot of good information here: http://www.parks.sfgov.org/site/recp...x.asp?id=25553 What we see today at the Palace of Fine Arts is a concrete shaped from casts of the original plaster Palace of the PPIE. The restoration has 3 parts. The first part is finished... restoration of elements and leaky roof of the dome. This includes replacement of the wooden muses. The muses are on continuing display at the Exploratorium (at least they were there last August). The muses looked like weatherworn driftwood. Part 2 is consists of a seismic retrofit and the restoration of the lagoon. Part 3 is the restoration of the building surrounding the rotunda (where the Exploratorium is currently housed). From the website: Designed by Bernard Maybeck and built in 1915 as part of the Panama Pacific International Exposition, the Palace of Fine Arts is the sole structure to remain. The original Palace and its grounds, built of plaster and expected to last several years at most, stood for over thirty five years. Deterioration over time occurred, and attempts to preserve the structure failed. A reconstruction effort occurred between 1964 and 1972. For cost reasons, the entire 1915 scheme was not executed, and the architectural and plating elements surrounding all elevations of the Main Building were not built. For more information on the history, visit www.maybeck.org. What stands today are concrete and steel elements, made from casts of the original structure, therefore reflecting the true Maybeck design in architectural form. The lagoon shape is also true to the original design. The site has been designated as San Francisco Landmark No. 88 in 1977, and through the efforts of the Maybeck Foundation, is currently being nominated to The National Register of Historic Places. The Campaign to Restore the Palace of Fine Arts is being led by the Maybeck Foundation. For information on how you can become a donor or get involved, visit www.savethepalace.org or call 415/474-0172 A lot of great information on the above websites. __________________ bagels \| blog I am the original thread killer.

May 27th, 2005, 02:01 AM	#85
naughtyins0mniac HAHA.. Zzz.. HAHA.. Zzz.. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Francisco Posts: 94 Likes (Received): 0	hold on.. san francisco ok go on with the topic.. __________________ san francisco is a city where people are never more abroad than when they are at home. ~benjamin f. taylor Last edited by naughtyins0mniac; May 28th, 2005 at 12:39 AM.

May 27th, 2005, 02:12 AM	#86
612bv3 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Alameda Posts: 1,537 Likes (Received): 1	I posted those pictures on page 2 except the 3rd and the 4th pic. Did you get them at the same website I did? __________________ My BART Fantasy Maps: 1 \| 2 \| 3 \| 4 \| 4.1 \| Circle \| Other Maps

May 28th, 2005, 01:40 AM	#89
612bv3 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Alameda Posts: 1,537 Likes (Received): 1	Yup, we got it from the same website. No need to remove them... __________________ My BART Fantasy Maps: 1 \| 2 \| 3 \| 4 \| 4.1 \| Circle \| Other Maps

May 31st, 2005, 04:28 PM	#91
Q-TIP Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Sydney/Dubai/HK/London Posts: 550 Likes (Received): 0	is that last photo an aerial of SF airport or Oakland's? __________________ At the end of every road there is a carpark

May 21st, 2005, 09:53 AM	#82
Monkey Londinium langur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Londinium Posts: 14,616 Likes (Received): 1	O man, you're always so totally on the ball, boyhaha! True, I'm sure many of the buildings erected for the Panama-Pacific Exposition long ago weren't meant to last. And, to tell you the truth, in some cases (e. g. Maryland, North Dakota) I'm not exactly crushed that they didn't. On the other hand, I wouldn't have minded keeping the Fountain of Ceres around. But San Francisco is fortunate to still have the Palace of Fine Arts and should go to some lengths to preserve it. I'm currently working on a photo thread which will be short on narrative & show a melange of pix from at least 2 photographers. So some of the Palace's original statuary is decaying? After close to 100 years of sea air and salty breezes and fog so close to the water, that's hardly surprising. Maybeck (Bernard M, the architect of the Palace) actually believed in building things so they'd last. I heard he was the first to introduce industrial sash windows (both at the First Church of Christ Scientist, which occupies a special category in the National Register of Historic Places, and several of the homes in North Berkeley). Solid iron! Thick, solid glass! I'll be elated if the City and County of San Francisco manages to keep the p[a]lace up, although I suspect space rental can't quite pay for the maintenance.

May 21st, 2005, 10:38 AM	#83
Monkey Londinium langur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Londinium Posts: 14,616 Likes (Received): 1	Edit: Sorry. Something misfired here.

June 1st, 2005, 12:38 AM	#92
612bv3 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Alameda Posts: 1,537 Likes (Received): 1	^ That would be SFO, San Francisco International Airport. I love how the terminal's are all organized in a circle. __________________ My BART Fantasy Maps: 1 \| 2 \| 3 \| 4 \| 4.1 \| Circle \| Other Maps

June 1st, 2005, 05:53 PM	#93
streetscapeer hmmm...... Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New York Posts: 2,377 Likes (Received): 18	we need more pics!

June 2nd, 2005, 01:03 AM	#94
naughtyins0mniac HAHA.. Zzz.. HAHA.. Zzz.. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Francisco Posts: 94 Likes (Received): 0	alright then Oakland San Francisco Pacifica South San Francisco Burlingame SFO San Jose Airport San Jose __________________ san francisco is a city where people are never more abroad than when they are at home. ~benjamin f. taylor

June 2nd, 2005, 05:08 AM	#95
612bv3 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Alameda Posts: 1,537 Likes (Received): 1	How old are those pic insomniac? It looks like there hasn't been any progress in Mineta San Jose International Airport, I thought they were constructing a new terminal. __________________ My BART Fantasy Maps: 1 \| 2 \| 3 \| 4 \| 4.1 \| Circle \| Other Maps

June 2nd, 2005, 05:12 AM	#96
612bv3 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Alameda Posts: 1,537 Likes (Received): 1	__________________ My BART Fantasy Maps: 1 \| 2 \| 3 \| 4 \| 4.1 \| Circle \| Other Maps

June 2nd, 2005, 05:18 AM	#97
612bv3 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Alameda Posts: 1,537 Likes (Received): 1	THE BRIDGE THAT'S COSTING US BILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND IT'S TAKING FOREVER TO BE BUILT! __________________ My BART Fantasy Maps: 1 \| 2 \| 3 \| 4 \| 4.1 \| Circle \| Other Maps

June 2nd, 2005, 08:41 AM	#98
Monkey Londinium langur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Londinium Posts: 14,616 Likes (Received): 1	Ah ... you mean THAT thing, bv3! Thank you for posting the pix but somehow I'm totally disillusioned with that project.

June 3rd, 2005, 06:52 AM	#99
naughtyins0mniac HAHA.. Zzz.. HAHA.. Zzz.. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Francisco Posts: 94 Likes (Received): 0	i dont really know how old those pictures are. bout that thing, dont call it a bridge!! __________________ san francisco is a city where people are never more abroad than when they are at home. ~benjamin f. taylor

June 4th, 2005, 02:00 AM	#100
naughtyins0mniac HAHA.. Zzz.. HAHA.. Zzz.. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Francisco Posts: 94 Likes (Received): 0	.. __________________ san francisco is a city where people are never more abroad than when they are at home. ~benjamin f. taylor Last edited by naughtyins0mniac; June 4th, 2005 at 02:03 AM. Reason: copyrighted image removed

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