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Old February 7th, 2017, 12:11 AM   #1
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Lost German wonders and UNESCO list

Following up on an interesting point raised by someone in the Frankfurt reconstruction thread, I was wondering what are people's thoughts on the following issue: Which of the great German historical cities lost during World War Two would have deserved a UNESCO World Heritage designation, had they not been destroyed?

I realize that it's a very speculative question, and that Germany already has a ton of cities and places on the UNESCO list (albeit, unlike Italy or France, it has no major cities designated as Heritage sites, as far as I know), but I think it's still something interesting to discuss.

I feel that Dresden would have been a "must" on the list, as the Baroque and Rococo capital of Central and Northern Europe; Frankfurt, with its almost untouched medieval core, might have been there too...Other ideas?
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Old February 7th, 2017, 09:44 AM   #2
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Lübeck, Danzig (Pl.), Hirschberg (Pl.), Mannheim, Nürnberg, Würzburg, Braunschweig maybe also Kassel as its medial core was comparable to Frankfurt and was almost untouched too.
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Old February 7th, 2017, 02:30 PM   #3
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Interesting question there!

Agree with Tolbert's choices, though Lübeck is on the list actually. Not so sure about Mannheim. Hildesheim would be a candidate I guess, maybe even more of Kassel than just the Bergpark. Indeed both had enormous Fachwerk old towns. Augsburg would be another candidate. If all churches plus interiors of Magdeburg survived, they would form a common World Heritage.

Nürnberg and Frankfurt would definitely be on the list. After all, there's still some old towns left, that actually are UNESCO-worthy imho, such as Landshut, Passau, Lindau and Rothenburg-Dinkelsbühl (common entry) in Bavaria, parts of Erfurt and Görlitz (maybe common entry with Bautzen).
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Old February 7th, 2017, 04:32 PM   #4
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Also Breslau (pl), more parts of Wurzburg, Hannover, and maybe Koblenz.
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Maybe even Munich and Cologne (apart from the Dom, see the amazing Romanesque churches, largely reconstructed but without their interiors). Elbing/Elblag was pretty amazing, too. And Königsberg/Kaliningrad, though not sure if World Heritage worthy.
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How could we so far have forgotten Hamburg? For sure it's historic areas and harbor. Also Bremen.

I also think an argument could be made for Essen and Wupperthal.
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Yes, definitively Dresden, Frankfurt and Nürnberg. Maybe Heidelberg ?
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Old February 10th, 2017, 02:17 PM   #8
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i would say...

Braunschweig
Nürnberg
Frankfurt
Augsburg
Kassel
Hildesheim
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Old February 12th, 2017, 12:19 AM   #9
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...Maybe Heidelberg ?
Heidelberg wasn't destroyed in WWII.
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Old February 12th, 2017, 02:03 AM   #10
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How sad is it that we can barely decide on a list of entire CITIES that have been completely wiped off the map much less specific buildings/streets/areas...really shows the absolutely incomprehensible level of destruction of the war
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Old February 13th, 2017, 10:27 AM   #11
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Interesting question there!

Agree with Tolbert's choices, though Lübeck is on the list actually. Not so sure about Mannheim. Hildesheim would be a candidate I guess, maybe even more of Kassel than just the Bergpark. Indeed both had enormous Fachwerk old towns. Augsburg would be another candidate. If all churches plus interiors of Magdeburg survived, they would form a common World Heritage.

Nürnberg and Frankfurt would definitely be on the list. After all, there's still some old towns left, that actually are UNESCO-worthy imho, such as Landshut, Passau, Lindau and Rothenburg-Dinkelsbühl (common entry) in Bavaria, parts of Erfurt and Görlitz (maybe common entry with Bautzen).
Yes, i also thought about Magdeburg, but i wasnt sure how intact its mediaval core had been. As long as i know, it had been reworked pretty much in 19th/20th, like Hamburg, Berlin, Cologne and Munich. (Colognes cathedrals would have been candidates though) So those larger Cities would hardly get a world heritage status. Görlitz, Bautzen, Bresslau, Königsberg even Heidelberg wouldnt get an entry too. They where pretty common cities in those days. Today, Görlitz, Bautzen and Heidelberg are special because they didn't face any destruction.

When you think about heritage status on cities, you have to think about they uniquenes before the war. Of course all cites where way more beautiful and historic bevor the destruction, but of them only the best would get an entry.

Concerning Mannheim, i was thinking of its uniqunes as the largest planned baroque city an the archetype for a lot of other planed cities. So more they layout is importand than its architecture.
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