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Old February 24th, 2013, 06:00 PM   #2141
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Old February 25th, 2013, 08:45 AM   #2142
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Wow @ that LA picture ... true megacity.
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Old February 25th, 2013, 04:52 PM   #2143
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Old March 3rd, 2013, 06:28 AM   #2146
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I never understood why people say that LA looks smaller than its population. In pictures like the ones posted above, you can clearly see that LA is MASSIVE. Aside from Mexico City and NYC, there is no city in North America that is as dense and as continuously built up as Los Angeles.
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Old March 3rd, 2013, 06:52 AM   #2147
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Because LA lacks the centralized core that is seen in NYC and Chicago. Definitely massive though. Over 100 miles of continuous development from west to east.
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Old March 3rd, 2013, 04:26 PM   #2148
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Love those L.A. shots. I think it's time to visit America's 2nd megacity.
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Old March 3rd, 2013, 09:22 PM   #2149
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I never understood why people say that LA looks smaller than its population. In pictures like the ones posted above, you can clearly see that LA is MASSIVE. Aside from Mexico City and NYC, there is no city in North America that is as dense and as continuously built up as Los Angeles.
Not many tall buildings. It has under twenty-five 500 footers, compared to Chicago which has over a hundred and ten but is a much smaller city. LA also has less than Houston, Toronto and Sydney and they're also smaller..
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Old March 3rd, 2013, 09:48 PM   #2150
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Not many tall buildings. It has under twenty-five 500 footers, compared to Chicago which has over a hundred and ten but is a much smaller city. LA also has less than Houston, Toronto and Sydney and they're also smaller..
As the 2nd largest city in the United States people expect a better skyline, but I do think people penalize it far too much based on that one disappointment. If one takes population out of the equation (as one should) and bases one's opinion only on what one sees it's quite good. I'd put it 4th or 5th best US skyline.

That said, the only mega city in America with a knock out skyline is New York. The other 5: Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Buenos Aires, Mexico City, and Los Angeles all fall short of what one would expect.
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LA might not even have a skyline were it not for the repeal of building code height limitations in 1962 and the insistance of a single developer, Robert Maguire who championed Downtown skyscrapers from the 1970s on. Trouble is, that fleet of office towers is both high quality construction and physically huge, with millions of square feet of office space. And with so many burgeoning submarkets, Downtown LA isn't even the city's premier office location. So until there's enough demand for expensive high-end condos in DTLA, the odds of that skyline growing much rests on shorter rental towers and hotels. Meanwhile, the rest of the city is building higher...even if 'higher' only means going from 1-3 stories to 5-20 stories.
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Old March 4th, 2013, 02:57 AM   #2152
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Los Angeles can't sprawl forever. The Inland Empire might be the last major push outward. It's the natural progression of major cities in north America to eventually densify. Zoning and regulations specific to particular jurisdictions have meant that cities are at different points on that trajectory.

It may come as a surprise to some, but Toronto only reached that tipping point a little while ago with the passing of the 'Green Belt', and policies that favour intensification, transit, density, interest in downtown living, and support for nodes. Like Los Angeles, Toronto has established nodes like Misssisauga City Centre, North York City Centre, Scarborough Town Centre, and smaller ones elsewhere.

The skyscraper boom in Toronto is merely a reflection of a quickly growing city, but also this sea change from continual geographic expansion to locating most growth on already built on land. Downtown has been the chief beneficiary, but the other nodes are also seeing significant skyscraper construction.

Los Angeles will eventually see the same thing, but it might take many years before it materializes.
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Old March 4th, 2013, 03:37 AM   #2153
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I like that Los Angeles is much more multi-nodal compared to most other metros. I don't think we can compare that to Toronto. Mississauga is growing into a city of its own but it is still very suburban in form. Moreover, you'll notice that whenever the higher up governments consider funding a cultural or entertainment project, their first preference is always the downtown node. I don't think it is the same case in LA. All the cultural, educational and entertainment institutions seem to be spread out evenly across Los Angeles. However, what they failed to do there is to supplement their multinodal city with a comprehensive metro system. They needed a system similar in scale to fellow megacities like NYC and London.
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Old March 4th, 2013, 12:05 PM   #2155
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I like that Los Angeles is much more multi-nodal compared to most other metros. I don't think we can compare that to Toronto. Mississauga is growing into a city of its own but it is still very suburban in form. Moreover, you'll notice that whenever the higher up governments consider funding a cultural or entertainment project, their first preference is always the downtown node. I don't think it is the same case in LA. All the cultural, educational and entertainment institutions seem to be spread out evenly across Los Angeles.
I'd argue that the nodal comparison is valid. Los Angeles does spread its assets throughout its metro, but that is beginning to happen in Toronto as the nodes move beyond their traditional role as major suburban intersections. Toronto is still far too core focused, but there are interesting things happening in Vaughan, Markham, Mississauga, Scarborough, and North York.

There are multi-billion dollar plans for all of them while Markham is going a step further and building a 20,000 seat arena. Mississauga has the Hershey Centre while Vaughan has Wonderland. None of these nodes are starting from zero. It's not much of a stretch to see them add other cultural assets, an expansion of post secondary institutions, galleries, museums, etc.

Even 'smaller' nodes like St.Clair/Yonge and Eglinton/Yonge are heading that way. We're already seeing people in these places limiting their trips to downtown Toronto and opting for their local node as these nodes become larger, more interesting, and more well rounded. It will take another 20 years for them to start gelling, but they're off to a good start.

Side note: the Aga Khan cultural centre didn't go downtown and I think we'll start seeing more of that going forward.
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Yes, it is definitely good to see that we are seeing more nodes forming in the GTA. Considering that commuting times are certainly not going to be decreasing anytime soon, if ever, this is indeed a good development.
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Agree. On a purely psychological level, having lots of nodes scattered about a metropolitan area also has the added benefit of making your city feel larger and more developed.

A common complaint about north American cities is how they transition from dense clusters of skyscrapers to an expanse of 2 floor buildings abruptly and literally 5-10 blocks from the CBD. Having nodes means that you don't end up in some farmer's field as you move out from the core, but it actually gets denser again as you reach the next node.
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