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Old February 1st, 2014, 09:33 PM   #3061
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I like this photo of Vancouver a lot. I have no issue with all the glass condos. It's just that they are so short. If they were all over 150 meters tall. That would make a big difference to me as far as how I would rank Vancouver.
Vancouver is very photogenic and agree about the height. I'm wondering how much longer they can continue building stumps. The peninsula on which their downtown sits is close to built out. If they want to grow they have nowhere to go except up. Btw, it's Pittsburgh.
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Old February 1st, 2014, 09:54 PM   #3062
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Right, and this coming from a guy who lives in a city that's tallest residential tower is 135M lol and talks about others being short and fat

It must be tough to get excited about a city with little to no new construction, don't hate, congratulate, like we would do for you
18 buildings here over 150m. Currently have a 190m residential U/C and 3 more (all residential) buildings over 180m fully approved and all expected to start within the next 1-2 years.

Also our current tallest residential is 145m. It's the tallest blue glass one in this pic and actually looks pretty good and uses high quality material. I am not a fan of the 2 residential buildings in the front left of this, and if they were twice as tall it doesn't mean I would suddenly call them good. They would just be more prominent pieces of crap.



Boston has also been "booming" for a couple years now on the lower levels, with an absolute ton of filler construction up to around 300'. These upcoming taller buildings (9 total from 400'-691' fully approved and expected to be built imminently, with more proposals on the table) will be a huge boost to an area already full of cranes.


In the below pic I love Wachovia (or whatever it's called now), the concrete brute in the background to the left of it, the Miami Tower which I think I can just see peaking out to the left of that, and am also a pretty big fan of that blue and green glass office tower. The 8 or so buildings in the foreground are absolutely awful, and the type that would be thinner, taller, and unabashedly criticized were they built in Dubai. The vast majority of buildings I truly like in the Miami skyline were all built in the 70's and 80's. That's why i rank it lower than its size. Even though many of these new buildings are huge, I wouldn't want them in my city or within 1000 miles of it.

(however, to defend it a little, the red-topped building towards the right is pretty cool, and I am marginally positive towards the 3 blocky blue glass towers to the left with the white grids)

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Old February 1st, 2014, 09:56 PM   #3063
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It must be tough to get excited about a city with little to no new construction, don't hate, congratulate, like we would do for you
I know! Be happy another North American city is in the process of getting a world-class skyline!

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Vancouver is very photogenic and agree about the height. I'm wondering how much longer they can continue building stumps. The peninsula on which their downtown sits is close to built out. If they want to grow they have nowhere to go except up.
But doesn't Vancouver also have height restrictions because of aviation interests?

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Btw, it's Pittsburgh.
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Old February 1st, 2014, 10:08 PM   #3064
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Whether y'all agree with my list or not, everything on it is at least defensible. It's not like I said something like....
1. Hartford
2. Raleigh
3. NYC
4. Boston
5. Jacksonville
6. Winnipeg
7. Shanghai
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Old February 1st, 2014, 10:44 PM   #3065
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In the below pic I love Wachovia (or whatever it's called now), the concrete brute in the background to the left of it, the Miami Tower which I think I can just see peaking out to the left of that, and am also a pretty big fan of that blue and green glass office tower. The 8 or so buildings in the foreground are absolutely awful, and the type that would be thinner, taller, and unabashedly criticized were they built in Dubai.
Wachovia became Wells Fargo and consolidated into the blue/green glass tower. The tallest tower in my photo, which was Wachovia, has now gone back to its original name when it opened back in 1984 - Southeast Financial Center and remains my favorite building in Miami after 3 decades. It was designed by the prestigious architectural firm of Skidmore, Owings, and Merrill, btw. The Miami Tower was designed by I. M. Pei out of New York. We were lucky to get these two bulidings when we did, and they have aged well.

The buildings in the foreground on Brickell Key we pretty much all hate down here too, along with the three across the river from it. We're left wondering what the hell were they thinking.

Hopefully, we will get better designs in this decade with the condo madness of the last decade gone and a more substantial boom based on real demand underway in this decade.

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Whether y'all agree with my list or not, everything on it is at least defensible.
One way your list is defensible is in that just about all of the cities you've placed above Miami, except for Boston and San Francisco, there are more buildings over 200 meters tall if that is a criterion any one wants to use, and San Francisco's skyline is complimented by its suspension bridges. Miami has a ton of buildings in the 150-200 meter height range, but only 3 above 200 meters. That will change in this decade starting this year.
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Old February 1st, 2014, 11:24 PM   #3066
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Old February 2nd, 2014, 04:34 AM   #3067
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Early 2014 rankings:
1. NYC
2. Chicago
3. Toronto
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4. LA
5. Philly
6. Atlanta
7. Houston
8. Boston
9. Seattle
10. San Francisco
11. Panama City
12. Dallas
13. Miami
14. Montreal
15. Calgary
16. Pittsburgh
17. Mexico City
18. Minneapolis
19. Vancouver
20. Detroit
21. Charlotte
22. Denver
23. Cleveland

Obviously there is a lot of separation between the top 3 and the rest of the crowd.

Before you complain that City X has more skyscrapers than City Y and therefore should be higher, I also consider overall height, depth, density/proximity, QUALITY (especially at the top), and layout.
Then why the ***** is doing Panama in that list?
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Then why the ***** is doing Panama in that list?
There are many factors that go into judging a skyline. Panama City has the quantity and height to sit comfortably as the #4 skyline in North America. Obviously, I ranked it much lower than that. Check this out. It's not perfect, but probably the best mathematical ranking system I know of. You'll see Panama City's skyline is almost the size of Toronto.

http://tudl0867.home.xs4all.nl/skylines.html
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Old February 2nd, 2014, 07:40 AM   #3069
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There are many factors that go into judging a skyline. Panama City has the quantity and height to sit comfortably as the #4 skyline in North America. Obviously, I ranked it much lower than that. Check this out. It's not perfect, but probably the best mathematical ranking system I know of. You'll see Panama City's skyline is almost the size of Toronto.

http://tudl0867.home.xs4all.nl/skylines.html
Height and quantity are amazing, but the quality of the skyscrapers it's not something I'd call beautiful, or at least acceptable; it's like a mini-Dubai. The changes the city have had over the past years are outstanding, and have brought really positive things to the city, which I'm glad, but in terms of skyline, I
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But doesn't Vancouver also have height restrictions because of aviation interests?
Their height restrictions have to do with protecting view planes of the mountains enjoyed by wealthy condo owners. It's not about safety or protecting views for regular Vancouverites.

You can only see the mountains if you look down a street canyon that terminates on the water with the mountains in the distance. This is all about catering to a few rich people to the detriment of the overall city.

They already have absurdly high real estate prices, but continue to build stumps. If these 30 floor residential buildings were built 120 floors instead, housing would be far more affordable. Eventually city planners will have to come to their senses.
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Their height restrictions have to do with protecting view planes of the mountains enjoyed by wealthy condo owners. It's not about safety or protecting views for regular Vancouverites.

You can only see the mountains if you look down a street canyon that terminates on the water with the mountains in the distance. This is all about catering to a few rich people to the detriment of the overall city.

They already have absurdly high real estate prices, but continue to build stumps. If these 30 floor residential buildings were built 120 floors instead, housing would be far more affordable. Eventually city planners will have to come to their senses.
That's ashame, because some very tall towers would look spectacular against that natural scenery!
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It will happen eventually or Vancouver's growth will come screeching to a halt due to a market no one can afford to live in.
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I like the North American skyline, are fascinating!

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It's not perfect, but probably the best mathematical ranking system I know of. You'll see Panama City's skyline is almost the size of Toronto.

http://tudl0867.home.xs4all.nl/skylines.html
I find that resource offers an excellent starting point. Statistics strip out personal preferences so one can see how subjective criteria like architecture, quality, familiarity, and iconic structures alter our views.

I thought I'd compile a list of north America's biggest skylines from that study:

01. New York
02. Chicago
03. Toronto
04. Panama City
05. Miami

06. Houston
07. Los Angeles
08. Atlanta
09. Mexico City
10. San Francisco

11. Las Vegas
12. Dallas
13. Philadelphia
14. Calgary
15. Boston

16. Seattle
17. Vancouver
18. Montreal
19. Honolulu
20. Minneapolis
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18 buildings here over 150m. Currently have a 190m residential U/C and 3 more (all residential) buildings over 180m fully approved and all expected to start within the next 1-2 years.

Wow


Also our current tallest residential is 145m. It's the tallest blue glass one in this pic and actually looks pretty good and uses high quality material. I am not a fan of the 2 residential buildings in the front left of this, and if they were twice as tall it doesn't mean I would suddenly call them good. They would just be more prominent pieces of crap.

I thought your tallest residential building was 135 M based on this link

http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?cityID=145


Thanks to you I now know the tallest residential building is 145M, once again lets give it up


Boston has also been "booming" for a couple years now on the lower levels, with an absolute ton of filler construction up to around 300'. These upcoming taller buildings (9 total from 400'-691' fully approved and expected to be built imminently, with more proposals on the table) will be a huge boost to an area already full of cranes.

Again congrats


In the below pic I love Wachovia (or whatever it's called now), the concrete brute in the background to the left of it, the Miami Tower which I think I can just see peaking out to the left of that, and am also a pretty big fan of that blue and green glass office tower. The 8 or so buildings in the foreground are absolutely awful, and the type that would be thinner, taller, and unabashedly criticized were they built in Dubai. The vast majority of buildings I truly like in the Miami skyline were all built in the 70's and 80's. That's why i rank it lower than its size. Even though many of these new buildings are huge, I wouldn't want them in my city or within 1000 miles of it.

Appreciate the props but about the buildings in the foreground, they are built on a small island just off our downtown streets and were built to be a bit different, whole different feel / vibe like small village off the busy streets a small get away for those residents, they have no office towers like you enjoy, just residential, 2 of the buildings on that small island are taller then your tallest residential building at 145 M maybe that's where your jealousy comes into play


(however, to defend it a little, the red-topped building towards the right is pretty cool, and I am marginally positive towards the 3 blocky blue glass towers to the left with the white grids)

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I didn't realize I needed to write 300 words about every city I want to rank in a personal list that is just as subjective as it is objective. I can defend the placement of any city on my list, but I'm not going to preemptively write a novel just because (random person) may not agree with me on something.
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