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Old May 1st, 2014, 09:30 AM   #3481
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I counted 12 cranes! Toronto = Boom town!
I wish there were more skyscraper construction outside the downtown. And the lack of supertall is pretty disappointing...don't understand why Toronto is lagging behind
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Old May 1st, 2014, 09:52 AM   #3482
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To understand why one has to understand the culture of Toronto and its history. The city's past is blue collar and industrial. Predictably, Toronto is an excruciatingly pragmatic place where modesty rules the day. That said, things are slowly changing as the city grows wealthier and opulence becomes more accepted.

Oxford is supposedly moving forward with their Foster twins so we should get 2 super talls right there. I'm hoping for another on that plot directly east of the ACC. Toronto will get super tall buildings. We're quickly reaching a point where we'll have little choice but to start building them.

I have to admit, by the time Toronto gets around to buildings 300m+ they won't be anything special. We're likely already at the point where it's 400m+, 500m+, and 600m+ buildings that cause a stir. 300m+ buildings are so 2005.
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Old May 1st, 2014, 10:21 PM   #3483
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Old May 2nd, 2014, 01:25 AM   #3484
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I wish there were more skyscraper construction outside the downtown. And the lack of supertall is pretty disappointing...don't understand why Toronto is lagging behind
The 553 metre CN Tower is nothing to be ignored and First Canadian Place is a mere two metres shy of the magical "supertall" status.

Toronto is one of the few cities in North America that actually is building legit skyscrapers outside of the downtown, so I don't think we're lagging in that aspect at all.
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Old May 2nd, 2014, 04:07 AM   #3485
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San Francisco will be a solid #6 for me when Transbay goes up. It's a bit of a table top skyline currently and could do with a strong peak.
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Old May 2nd, 2014, 04:28 AM   #3486
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I really like Toronto's skyline a lot, but even outside of Chicago and New York City there are other US. skylines that could rival it.
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Old May 2nd, 2014, 04:30 AM   #3487
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I really like Toronto's skyline a lot, but even outside of Chicago and New York City there are other US. skylines that could rival it.
Like which ones?
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Old May 2nd, 2014, 04:32 AM   #3488
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Like which ones?
I guess when I say rival I mean ones that are in the running. I'd probably still put Toronto as #3 after NYC and Chicago but cities like Houston, LA, Miami, Philly, SF and a few others are rising pretty fast.

They of course lack a 500 meter structure like the CN tower though.
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Old May 2nd, 2014, 04:37 AM   #3489
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I guess when I say rival I mean ones that are in the running. I'd probably still put Toronto as #3 after NYC and Chicago but cities like Houston, LA, Miami, Philly, SF and a few others are rising pretty fast.

They of course lack a 500 meter structure like the CN tower though.
Whether a US city has a 500 meter structure like the CN tower or not, I don't see Toronto standing still long enough for other US cities to catch it. Miami had a shot in this decade, but then Toronto put the pedal to the metal.
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Old May 2nd, 2014, 06:18 AM   #3490
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Whether a US city has a 500 meter structure like the CN tower or not, I don't see Toronto standing still long enough for other US cities to catch it. Miami had a shot in this decade, but then Toronto put the pedal to the metal.
Agree. Things can change quickly, but in the short term Toronto looks set to rival Chicago for 2nd rather than fight off a smaller skyline for 3rd spot. I tabulated this last month based from the SSP data base. I included the CN Tower as it makes an impact regardless of its classification. It even shocked me how close it might get within the next 3-4 years:


Built, U/C, Proposed

# of Buildings 400m+
Chicago 2
Toronto 1

# of Buildings 300-399m
Chicago 5
Toronto 0

# of Buildings 200-299m
Chicago 32
Toronto 37

# of Buildings 100-199m
Chicago 301
Toronto 329

# of Buildings 50-99m
Chicago 651
Toronto 1105
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I guess when I say rival I mean ones that are in the running. I'd probably still put Toronto as #3 after NYC and Chicago but cities like Houston, LA, Miami, Philly, SF and a few others are rising pretty fast.
Aesthetically you could make a case for that, but not quantitatively. Miami aside, those other skylines are midgets compared to Toronto. I'll re-do the above table and add the other cities you listed. Once again, I included the CN Tower as it has visual impact regardless of its classification. In 3-4 years, Toronto could be as few as 7 buildings away from being #2 in every category.


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# of Super Tall Buildings
New York 19
Chicago 7
Miami 2
Houston 2
Los Angeles 2
Toronto 1
Philadelphia 1
San Francisco 1

# of Buildings 200-299m
New York 73
Toronto 37
Chicago 32
Miami 16
Houston 14
Los Angeles 10
San Francisco 5
Philadelphia 5

# of Buildings 100-199m
New York 725
Toronto 329
Chicago 301
Miami 142
Houston 92
San Francisco 92
Los Angeles 88
Philadelphia 59

# of Buildings 50-99m
New York 2,632
Toronto 1,105
Chicago 651
Los Angeles 288
Houston 231
Miami 228
Philadelphia 210
San Francisco 186
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Old May 2nd, 2014, 06:59 AM   #3492
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Miami aside, those other skylines are midgets compared to Toronto.
And the market here in Miami is super strong right now. We keep hearing about new projects being announced almost every day. We don't even have an end in sight yet.

Btw Isaidso, I don't think "midget" is sociopolitically correct. I think you might have Little People of America after you on that one.
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Oh right. Vertically challenged.
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Is that a monorail in that photo of Seattle Juan posted?
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Yes, it connects downtown with the Space Needle.
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I like the skyline of Chicago than NYC. It's more soothing to my eyes.
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