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Old May 20th, 2014, 09:22 PM   #3601
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Old May 20th, 2014, 10:59 PM   #3602
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Lol, soon the best skyline in the U.S. won't be even in the top 10 globally. Chinese and Arabs are building skyscrapers like there's no tomorrow. American cities should focus more on transit and infrastructure because there's no chance really of ever catching up again, at least not in my life time.
It depends, some people like old school buildings (Empire State, Chrysler) as their "best". To those people, the newer flashier skyscrapers won't really do much.
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Old May 21st, 2014, 04:57 AM   #3603
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Lol, soon the best skyline in the U.S. won't be even in the top 10 globally. Chinese and Arabs are building skyscrapers like there's no tomorrow. American cities should focus more on transit and infrastructure because there's no chance really of ever catching up again, at least not in my life time.
Chicago might drop out of the top 10, but New York is certainly not standing still. They've got skyscrapers spreading into Brooklyn now. Developers of skyscrapers and transit and infrastructure are two different animals. Developers can make a profit from office space and penthouses.
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Old May 21st, 2014, 06:13 AM   #3604
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I think Toronto and Chicago will cling to their teeth to stay in the top 10.
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Old May 21st, 2014, 06:23 AM   #3605
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I think Toronto and Chicago will cling to their teeth to stay in the top 10.
Chicago will be clinging by its teeth to stay in the top 10. Toronto has to get there first, and it seems highly unlikely.
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Old May 21st, 2014, 09:59 PM   #3606
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Old May 22nd, 2014, 01:37 AM   #3607
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Chicago will be clinging by its teeth to stay in the top 10. Toronto has to get there first, and it seems highly unlikely.
Quantitatively, I'd agree with you. Taking everything together, I've always had both in the top 10.
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Quantitatively, I'd agree with you. Taking everything together, I've always had both in the top 10.
Well, yeah!
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Old May 22nd, 2014, 06:27 AM   #3609
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Yes, lets keep this civil people. Everyone has a right to their opinion and preferences. If we all liked the exact same thing it would get boring pretty fast. Let's also keep in mind that if a city is building more than our own city that shouldn't be viewed as a terrible thing. It means they're prospering and it's good to see cities develop and flourish.

The idea that growth is fine only if my own city is at the top of the heap is an awfully unpleasant way of viewing the world.
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Old May 22nd, 2014, 06:36 AM   #3610
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That's the nicest Houston photo I've ever seen. Some great looking buildings in that shot.
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I think this is a good one of Houston too. It looks more dense from this angle.

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Old May 22nd, 2014, 06:46 AM   #3612
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It does look dense in that photo. What I like about the first one is that it shows that the core has good architectural layering and quality. Sometimes that's hard to determine in distant skyline shots.
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Old May 22nd, 2014, 11:54 PM   #3614
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London would have a hard time cracking the top 10 in north America. Calgary's skyline is bigger, but that's a discussion for another thread.

North America's 20 Largest Skylines (This is a quantitative analysis)

01. New York 38,220
02. Chicago 17,252
03. Toronto 9,472
04. Panama City 9,088
05. Miami 6,192
06. Houston 4,997
07. Los Angeles 3,834
08. Atlanta 3,597
09. Mexico City 3,578
10. San Francisco 3,440

11. Las Vegas 2,916
12. Dallas 2,858
13. Philadelphia 2,662
14. Calgary 2,557
15. Boston 2,361
16. Seattle 2,202
17. Vancouver 1,747
18. Montreal 1,735
19. Honolulu 1,610
20. Minneapolis 1,582

* London, UK 2,416 (size wise, only good enough for 15th spot)


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Old May 23rd, 2014, 01:02 AM   #3615
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London would have a hard time cracking the top 10 in north America. Calgary's skyline is bigger, but that's a discussion for another thread.

North America's 20 Largest Skylines (This is a quantitative analysis)

01. New York 38,220
02. Chicago 17,252
03. Toronto 9,472
04. Panama City 9,088
05. Miami 6,192
06. Houston 4,997
07. Los Angeles 3,834
08. Atlanta 3,597
09. Mexico City 3,578
10. San Francisco 3,440

11. Las Vegas 2,916
12. Dallas 2,858
13. Philadelphia 2,662
14. Calgary 2,557
15. Boston 2,361
16. Seattle 2,202
17. Vancouver 1,747
18. Montreal 1,735
19. Honolulu 1,610
20. Minneapolis 1,582

* London, UK 2,416 (size wise, only good enough for 15th spot)


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What does this data measure? I find that some of the skylines that do not make it to the top 10 are actually larger and denser than some of those on the top 10. Take Philly and Seattle for example. In my book, these skylines are way bigger than say, Houston or Atlanta.
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What does this data measure? I find that some of the skylines that do not make it to the top 10 are actually larger and denser than some of those on the top 10. Take Philly and Seattle for example. In my book, these skylines are way bigger than say, Houston or Atlanta.
According to the website he quoted, it is the sum total of buildings over 295 feet or 90m. That is how Miami ranks so high without anything over 800 feet tall ...yet. If all Houston's tall buildings were in downtown, it would have a skyline way larger than Seattle or Atlanta.
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QuantumX: If Mississauga is included with Toronto, I think Sunny Isles should be included with Miami so I combined their totals in my table.

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What does this data measure? I find that some of the skylines that do not make it to the top 10 are actually larger and denser than some of those on the top 10. Take Philly and Seattle for example. In my book, these skylines are way bigger than say, Houston or Atlanta.
It's one of the better quantitative rankings I've come across. It counts every building over 90m. A building that's 150m is scored 60 points or 150-90. A building that's 250m is scored 160 points or 250-90. It adds all the points to arrive at a total.

It's not perfect, but does give a precise count of a skyline's scale. Obviously, a skyline with tons of short buildings under 90m won't score very well, but most skylines these days have lots of buildings taller than that. Skylines that lack a tall/dense cluster like Atlanta don't look great in photos, but studies like this show that they do have more heft to them than photos imply. If Buckhead were combined with downtown Atlanta it would look far more impressive.

I admit, I like the skylines of Seattle and Philadelphia a lot more than the skylines of Atlanta and Houston which goes to show that scale isn't everything. Layering, balance, architecture, quality, and layout are important. That said, scale is a good starting point. This graphic below illustrates what it counts:

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QuantumX: If Mississauga is included with Toronto, I think Sunny Isles should be included with Miami so I combined their totals in my table.
Thanks! I don't know why they don't count the metro for Miami the way they do Manila.
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I can't figure it out either.
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