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Old June 8th, 2014, 12:26 AM   #3701
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Is it also the Pablo Cruise capital of the world?
And the Jose Cruz capital?
What do you mean?
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Old June 8th, 2014, 01:23 AM   #3702
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This is from the east bridge of I-195 (The Julia Tuttle Causeway). It connects Miami with Miami Beach at mid-beach. The McArthur Causeway (I-395) connects downtown Miami with South Beach.

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Old June 8th, 2014, 08:35 PM   #3703
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What do you mean?
It's a pun.
Come to think of it, being the cruise ship capital is a good idea for a low-lying metro area with rising sea levels.
I've read that some Miami Beach streets are already periodically under water at high tide.
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Old June 8th, 2014, 09:14 PM   #3704
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Is Miami more at risk than other coastal cities? I realize it's very flat, but surely that's the case up and down coast lines around the world.
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Old June 8th, 2014, 10:43 PM   #3705
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It's a pun.
Come to think of it, being the cruise ship capital is a good idea for a low-lying metro area with rising sea levels.
I've read that some Miami Beach streets are already periodically under water at high tide.
You are taking us off topic again!
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Old June 8th, 2014, 10:44 PM   #3706
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Old June 8th, 2014, 11:03 PM   #3707
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KNA_2023 by koorosh.nozad, on Flickr
Just perfect. One compact cluster with a taller tower.

I don't want that Wilshire building to be built
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Old June 8th, 2014, 11:17 PM   #3708
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Is that an aberration or is modesty in short supply down there?
It's not modesty but the truth. Miami is the #1 Cruise ship capital of the world.

(Miami—largest cruise ship terminal
in the world, handling 35 percent of all global cruise
ship traffic)


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Scroll down to page 39,to the second paragragh.
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Old June 9th, 2014, 12:19 AM   #3709
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Just perfect. One compact cluster with a taller tower.

I don't want that Wilshire building to be built
LA is loaded with international style skyscrapers. Diversity will be good in the long run.
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Old June 9th, 2014, 12:37 AM   #3710
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Old June 9th, 2014, 02:08 AM   #3711
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Is Miami more at risk than other coastal cities? I realize it's very flat, but surely that's the case up and down coast lines around the world.
True.
There's a lot of local variation due to topography.
But I don't think that there's any city, other than Venice, that's more vulnerable to rising ocean levels.
New York has some very vulnerable zones, but it also has some elevated areas. Miami is entirely low lying and flat. It also may be more vulnerable to hurricanes than most other coastal cities.

Knowing this, I've been asking here whether the local authorities have plans or legislation in place to deal with this problem. The responses to that question seem to be naive at best.
Continuing to build tall conventional buildings at a frantic pace will not solve this problem. There needs to be a planning strategy, and a detailed building strategy. Business as usual won't cut it.

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^ I think you should worry more about cities like Venice or New Orleans than Miami which sits above Sea Level at the shore and at it's highest is 25 feet above Sea Level. Remember what Hurricane Sandy which wasn't a huge Hurricane did to lower Manhattan and flooded the subway system?
Miami went through Hurricane Andrew which was a Category 5 in 1992 and the worst structures to suffer where one story homes near the coast not high rises.
Miami has one of the toughest building codes in the US also.
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Old June 9th, 2014, 03:44 AM   #3713
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Knowing this, I've been asking here whether the local authorities have plans or legislation in place to deal with this problem. The responses to that question seem to be naive at best.
How many times do I have to tell you that this is not the forum for such a discussion?
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Old June 9th, 2014, 04:00 AM   #3714
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Is it also the Pablo Cruise capital of the world?
And the Jose Cruz capital?
Also, your so-called pun seems more like a thinly-veiled insult. That's why I asked you what you meant.
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Old June 9th, 2014, 04:10 AM   #3715
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Old June 9th, 2014, 04:35 AM   #3716
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Old June 9th, 2014, 03:07 PM   #3717
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True.
There's a lot of local variation due to topography.
But I don't think that there's any city, other than Venice, that's more vulnerable to rising ocean levels.
New York has some very vulnerable zones, but it also has some elevated areas. Miami is entirely low lying and flat. It also may be more vulnerable to hurricanes than most other coastal cities.

Knowing this, I've been asking here whether the local authorities have plans or legislation in place to deal with this problem. The responses to that question seem to be naive at best.
Continuing to build tall conventional buildings at a frantic pace will not solve this problem. There needs to be a planning strategy, and a detailed building strategy. Business as usual won't cut it.
Sounds reminiscent of Vancouver's earthquake/tsunami strategy. They're just not taking it as seriously as they should and some locals actually label it 'Vancouver bashing' when you bring it up. I bet if a devastating earthquake/tsunami hit Vancouver those same people would complain that no one warned them.

Topographically Miami isn't all that different than countless other towns and cities around the world, but they do have a heightened hurricane risk. I don't know much about Miami's hurricane/flooding preparedness, so I'll let others rhyme in (as some have done thus far).
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Sounds reminiscent of Vancouver's earthquake/tsunami strategy. They're just not taking it as seriously as they should and some locals actually label it 'Vancouver bashing' when you bring it up. I bet if a devastating earthquake/tsunami hit Vancouver those same people would complain that no one warned them.
We are getting off topic again. It looks as though there is a fire in that New York photo.
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