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Old July 3rd, 2014, 09:02 PM   #3861
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But, this frequently happens in the measuring of "Metropolitan Areas". Technically Mississauga is a completely "separate city", but the reality known by all of us who live here is that it is a de facto suburb of Toronto.
I'm not arguing that Mississauga shouldn't be part of Toronto's metropolitan area, but it doesn't make sense to include only Mississauga in Toronto's building count and ignore all the other buildings throughout the GTA, like those found in Brampton, Markham and Vaughan. You either include them all or none of them, since there's no difference between a city like Mississauga or a city like Vaughan when comparing them to Toronto.
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But they aren't ignoring other buildings in the GTA. Buildings in North York, Scarborough, Etobicoke, Markham, Vaughan, and Brampton are all included in Toronto's count which is to be expected. They mentioned that Mississauga's buildings are included because technically Mississauga is an independent city so it wasn't obvious that it was included.
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But they aren't ignoring other buildings in the GTA. Buildings in North York, Scarborough, Etobicoke, Markham, Vaughan, and Brampton are all included in Toronto's count which is to be expected. They mentioned that Mississauga's buildings are included because technically Mississauga is an independent city so it wasn't obvious that it was included.
But North York, Scarborough and Etobicoke are within the city boundaries so why did you mentioned them? There's no doubt that buildings in Humber Bay should be included, it's still Toronto. Markham, Vaughan and Mississauga are outside city limits and they shouldn't be counted IMO, even if they are suburbs and part of the metro area.
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Old July 4th, 2014, 05:35 AM   #3864
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Cincinnati has a truley beautiful skyline! Love the hills of the city, too!
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Old July 4th, 2014, 06:17 AM   #3865
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I only visited Cincy once, but I liked it!
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Old July 4th, 2014, 06:53 AM   #3866
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But they aren't ignoring other buildings in the GTA. Buildings in North York, Scarborough, Etobicoke, Markham, Vaughan, and Brampton are all included in Toronto's count which is to be expected. They mentioned that Mississauga's buildings are included because technically Mississauga is an independent city so it wasn't obvious that it was included.
But Mississauga, Vaughan and Brampton are all separate cities. Markham and Vaughan are not part of Toronto. North York, Scarborough and Etobicoke are.

I'm assuming the only reason they say 'including Mississauga' is because only Mississauga has buildings outside Toronto but within the GTA that are over 90 metres. I'm not too familiar with Vaughan, Brampton or Markham so I don't know if they have buildings that would meet the 90 metre mark.
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Old July 4th, 2014, 07:31 AM   #3867
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But Mississauga, Vaughan and Brampton are all separate cities. Markham and Vaughan are not part of Toronto. North York, Scarborough and Etobicoke are.

I'm assuming the only reason they say 'including Mississauga' is because only Mississauga has buildings outside Toronto but within the GTA that are over 90 metres. I'm not too familiar with Vaughan, Brampton or Markham so I don't know if they have buildings that would meet the 90 metre mark.
Correct, Mississauga has 90m+ buildings. The others don't.
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Old July 4th, 2014, 07:33 AM   #3868
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Cincinnati has a truley beautiful skyline! Love the hills of the city, too!
It's a very good looking city from a distance and at street level.
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By the time this happens, Shenzhen and Guangzhou will likely be the top competitors. HK is standing still, Shanghai has relatively little going on (aside from Shanghai Tower) compared to these 2 cities, and Dubai needs to fill in a lot more to truly be in consideration.

However, barring something catastrophic, no city in North America will challenge NYC in our lifetimes.
I don't know I feel like New Yorks skyline is more iconic, especially with its art deco architecture, while Shenzhen/Guangzhou will have nothing iconic/ except a few 2000ft skyscrapers
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I don't know I feel like New Yorks skyline is more iconic, especially with its art deco architecture, while Shenzhen/Guangzhou will have nothing iconic/ except a few 2000ft skyscrapers
What's your exact definition of an iconic building !
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Old July 5th, 2014, 03:34 AM   #3872
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Toronto's 7th tallest almost topping out although it looks like our tallest from this angle:


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^ That is probably the most compositionally balanced shot of Toronto's skyline from the lake that has ever been taken. I wonder if this view will change for better or for worse when all the other buildings under construction or proposed for the southcore area are topped out.
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Also, in relation to North American skylines, the banner today of Philadelphia is splendid. Easily the fourth best in the continent (IMO). Also my favourite city as a whole.
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Old July 5th, 2014, 04:17 AM   #3875
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I love Philadelphia's skyline as well, but have it around 8th spot.

Regarding the lake view shot of Toronto, the balance will likely get worse rather than better once Southcore is complete. We'll end up with more of a table top instead of the height variation we see now. One Yonge could mitigate that with a new peak where Toronto Star is now (the short tower with blue signage on the right).

The former peak provided by the bank towers is slowly getting absorbed by all the new construction. What that view really needs is a 400m tower on the 45 Bay site. It's the best opportunity for a new peak. It would block out Trump and look twice as tall as the shorter ICE condo.
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Yeah, I kind of wish Ice were built a little further east, maybe on the other side of the ACC.

This would have been perfect:

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Old July 5th, 2014, 11:18 PM   #3878
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They need a supertall there.
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Old July 6th, 2014, 03:46 AM   #3879
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Agree, but something just past the 300m threshold wouldn't do the trick either. They need something around 375-450m in that spot.
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Old July 6th, 2014, 08:02 AM   #3880
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I think that would depend on how close the tower would be to the lake. Something at 450 metres about as far away as Ice is would stick out a bit too much I think. I really like the CN Tower as the focal point of the skyline and I feel that if another huge tower were built it may look awkward.
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