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Old January 14th, 2015, 06:50 AM   #4901
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Houston's got quite a spine of skyscrapers (at least in that last shot lol). I think it's a bit underrated. The downtown is also a modernist's dream. I don't know where I read it but someone described downtown Houston as "the Miesian ideal, a downtown so elegant it's barely there." Too bad it has no street life, though.
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Old January 14th, 2015, 07:51 AM   #4902
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Old January 14th, 2015, 08:00 AM   #4903
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Old January 14th, 2015, 08:05 AM   #4904
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Houston's got quite a spine of skyscrapers (at least in that last shot lol). I think it's a bit underrated. The downtown is also a modernist's dream. I don't know where I read it but someone described downtown Houston as "the Miesian ideal, a downtown so elegant it's barely there." Too bad it has no street life, though.
I love Mies but Houston's skyline always leaves me feeling its missing something. Perhaps you hit the nail on the head when you said it's so elegant it's barely there. Modernism, even the best examples of it, needs other buildings around it that offer warmth, texture, and embellishment. A sea of stripped down buildings can become sterile and austere.

The best looking skylines in my eyes are those that offer great architectural diversity and layering. It's one area where Asian and European skylines fall down a little. Most of them have next to nothing pre 1990.
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Old January 14th, 2015, 11:59 PM   #4905
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Old January 15th, 2015, 05:08 AM   #4906
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Old January 15th, 2015, 05:25 AM   #4907
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Who said the Miami skyline was more dense than San Francisco's? I would certainly never argue that. I used to live there. Miami is now statistically larger, however, in terms of number of tall buildings over all (see the link I provided). Statisticians support this, not what people want to see in a photo.

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Old January 15th, 2015, 09:09 PM   #4911
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Who said the Miami skyline was more dense than San Francisco's? I would certainly never argue that. I used to live there. Miami is now statistically larger, however, in terms of number of tall buildings over all (see the link I provided). Statisticians support this, not what people want to see in a photo.

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Miami Skyline is growing, it just need to add more density. some skylines look better with more mid high rise building than a few tall buildings
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Old January 15th, 2015, 11:43 PM   #4912
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Miami Skyline is growing, it just need to add more density. some skylines look better with more mid high rise building than a few tall buildings
I think we have enough mid-rise buildings. Anyway, as you can see, statistics bear me out. I don't just make things up or decide what is what on my own.
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Old January 16th, 2015, 02:07 AM   #4913
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I think we have enough mid-rise buildings. Anyway, as you can see, statistics bear me out. I don't just make things up or decide what is what on my own.
Just curious, do the statistics include Miami Beach (and other beachside municipalities)? Or only Miami proper?

Edit: Just hit that link, looks like they do. So basically a fairly sizable part of the skyline isn't pictured in the photo above, right?
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Old January 16th, 2015, 06:04 AM   #4915
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The figures for Miami used to exclude Sunny Isles but now includes it. Miami Beach was always included.
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Wow, that is spectacular! It looks like one large Manhattan skyline and includes many of the most famous landmarks all in one shot!
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Old January 16th, 2015, 03:02 PM   #4917
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Just curious, do the statistics include Miami Beach (and other beachside municipalities)? Or only Miami proper?

Edit: Just hit that link, looks like they do. So basically a fairly sizable part of the skyline isn't pictured in the photo above, right?
That's correct! It's very difficult to get it all into one photo. This is the best I've been able to do.

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Old January 16th, 2015, 05:46 PM   #4918
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Old January 16th, 2015, 07:56 PM   #4919
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That's correct! It's very difficult to get it all into one photo. This is the best I've been able to do.
Its interesting because it kind of creates an apples and oranges situation when comparing Miami to other U.S. skylines. Since it is spread such a large geographic area, it is difficult to compare it to a city like Seattle, San Francisco or Philly - where nearly all the tall buildings are clustered in the CBD area. I wonder how the statistics of just downtown Miami & the Brickell area would compare to other U.S. downtowns.
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Its interesting because it kind of creates an apples and oranges situation when comparing Miami to other U.S. skylines. Since it is spread such a large geographic area, it is difficult to compare it to a city like Seattle, San Francisco or Philly - where nearly all the tall buildings are clustered in the CBD area. I wonder how the statistics of just downtown Miami & the Brickell area would compare to other U.S. downtowns.
You could argue that Southern vs Northern cities is apples to oranges. Miami is more comparable to the multi-node skylines of say, Houston and Atlanta.

There's also the apples to oranges comparison of Canadian cities, which tend to have many more 100m residential towers, but much less in the 150m+ range (except Calgary, punching well above its weight class).

This is why the pure statistics should only serve as a starting point in people's rankings. Every city can stand out by framing the argument specifically towards that city, just like every city can fall short by framing the argument differently. (except NYC, which kind of just owns every argument)

Some different statistical measures to consider include:
# of 100m+ towers
# of 150m+ towers
# of 200m+ towers
# of supertalls
Top 10/Top 25 Average Height (ie "tallest" skylines)
Pure Floor Count (favors residential skylines, many shorter resi's worth more points than taller office buildings)
And of course, this sucker http://tudl0867.home.xs4all.nl/skylines.html

That's just a start. Other innovative (but difficult to measure) stats would include:
# of square footage/meterage above a certain threshold (rewards larger footprint towers)
Measures that include vs exclude spires (ie occupiable/roof height, and how much extra boost does a city gain through spires?)
Including antenna (Willis Tower anybody?)
Exponential points for increased height (say 150m "baseline", where 150m tower = 150m/150*150 = 150 points, where 100m = 100m/150*100 = 67 points, 200m = 200m/150*200 = 267 points....)
How about points for every 10 meters, starting at 100m? (100 buildings over 100m = 100 points, + 90 of those buildings over 110m = 90*1.1 = 99 points, + 70 of those buildings over 120m = 70*1.2 = 84 points..... etc and then add the point totals at the end)

There are literally infinite ways to measure a city's skyline, and the rankings are going to be different depending on how you do it.
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