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Old February 21st, 2015, 08:02 AM   #5221
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Old February 21st, 2015, 08:32 AM   #5222
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but people in the suburban skylines thread seem to consider it a suburb of Toronto.
We do because even though technically Mississauga is a separate city, there is absolutely no break between it and Toronto; it is completely built up. On the contrary we do not consider nearby Hamilton to be part of the GTA because there is a physical break between the two. If we measured our metropolitan areas like they do in the USA, Hamilton would be considered part of the GTA.
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Old February 21st, 2015, 09:32 AM   #5223
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It's spelled Mississauga. Mississauga is its own city with its own mayor but is part of metro Toronto. It's an independent place but grew mainly due to its proximity to Toronto. Toronto corporate taxes used to be high so companies set up shop just beyond city limits in low tax Mississauga. When Mississauga filled up the big growth move to the next place further out: Brampton.

Mississauga City Centre is a major node in metro Toronto. Toronto's main airport is also in Mississauga.


Don't most suburbs have a mayor and a city hall etc.? It takes a lot more than that to turn a suburb into a "city." How exactly does Mississauga qualify as more than a larger than normal suburb?
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Old February 21st, 2015, 06:08 PM   #5224
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well, after doing a brief google search, it has a population of over 650,000 At least in the US, suburban 'cities' don't usually exceed 100,000 in population. Hell, most cities don't even have 300,000 discounting their metropolitan area.
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Old February 21st, 2015, 06:38 PM   #5225
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well, after doing a brief google search, it has a population of over 650,000 At least in the US, suburban 'cities' don't usually exceed 100,000 in population. Hell, most cities don't even have 300,000 discounting their metropolitan area.
Most of Toronto's suburbs have a population of well over 100,000. The smallest ones are in the 150K range, other than Milton, which is now pushing 100K anyway. Mississauga is by far the largest (if it were a 'true' separate city, it would 6th or 7th largest in Canada I believe). But Vaughan and Brampton are each in the 400 to 500K range, Markham is 350K. Many of these suburbs are starting to build up their downtowns and increase density in their respective cores.
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Old February 21st, 2015, 09:43 PM   #5227
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just noticed there are lots of bridges in Pittsburgh.
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just noticed there are lots of bridges in Pittsburgh.
they don't call it the city of bridges for nothing. Though I guess it's more widely known as the Steel City in North America.
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they don't call it the city of bridges for nothing. Though I guess it's more widely known as the Steel City in North America.
In Canada, 'The Steel City' is Hamilton.
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and the city of bridges is Saskatoon.
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In Canada, 'The Steel City' is Hamilton.
mhmm. I meant to say US earlier. Would make for an interesting one on one though...


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Old February 22nd, 2015, 12:38 AM   #5234
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Don't most suburbs have a mayor and a city hall etc.? It takes a lot more than that to turn a suburb into a "city." How exactly does Mississauga qualify as more than a larger than normal suburb?
No, Clayton Park is what one typically calls a suburb. No mayor, no government of its own, just houses, schools, and some stores. Suburbs are usually seen as bedroom communities of a city.

What we also see are actual cities/towns increasingly being seen as a bedroom communities (suburbs) of a larger city next door: think Bedford in Nova Scotia. This happened to Mississauga as well but it's big enough and strong enough that it's able to create a sizable city centre of its own.

Bedford and Mississauga aren't suburbs in the traditional sense in that have (or had) their own government, own downtown, and own transit system is some cases. It's not just a residential area funnelling people into the core. More people actually head to Mississauga from Toronto for work.
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In Canada, 'The Steel City' is Hamilton.
and in Mexico, the ¨The Steel City¨is Monterrey LOL



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Old February 22nd, 2015, 02:46 AM   #5236
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No, Clayton Park is what one typically calls a suburb. No mayor, no government of its own, just houses, schools, and some stores. Suburbs are usually seen as bedroom communities of a city.

What we also see are actual cities/towns increasingly being seen as a bedroom communities (suburbs) of a larger city next door: think Bedford in Nova Scotia. This happened to Mississauga as well but it's big enough and strong enough that it's able to create a sizable city centre of its own.

Bedford and Mississauga aren't suburbs in the traditional sense in that have (or had) their own government, own downtown, and own transit system is some cases. It's not just a residential area funnelling people into the core. More people actually head to Mississauga from Toronto for work.
No Bedford is different in the sense that it was a totally separate town that operated as a independent community long before it and Halifax started to meld together. Mississauga contains places like this such as Port Credit, but as a whole, the municipality and it's central "downtown" are totally new. Clayton Park is a suburb in the way that Scarbough is a suburb. It technically isn't and is part of the city proper and is simply a newer neighbourhood than the pre-war parts of the original city. CP has been part of the city of Halifax long before the big merger and was included in the city limits since the 1960s.

Halifax can't be compared to Toronto because it's all one large municipality and none of the suburbs have mayors or city halls but before the merger they did. Most suburbs in NA work like this.
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No Bedford is different in the sense that it was a totally separate town that operated as a independent community long before it and Halifax started to meld together.
So was Mississauga. The difference is only in how much Bedford and Mississauga grew. None of Toronto's suburbs had their own government, they were like Clayton Park. Because Toronto grew massively, formerly independent cities and towns got swallowed up by Toronto, maintained their governments, but are now also considered suburbs even though they started off like Bedford.
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and in Mexico, the ¨The Steel City¨is Monterrey LOL
Learn something new all the time. I guess most countries have a 'Steel City'. Here's ours:

Hamilton, Ontario (The Steel City)

Hamilton is at the western end of Lake Ontario and borders Toronto. It's affectionately also called 'The Hammer'; it was the most heavily industrialized city in the nation but is a shadow of its former self.


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