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Old July 4th, 2015, 07:50 PM   #5781
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Indeed; I don't remember seeing photos of it before!
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Old July 4th, 2015, 08:41 PM   #5782
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Old July 5th, 2015, 10:15 AM   #5783
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It doesn't change the fact that everything you posted to prove your point instead proves mine. It's all still blue glass at the end of the day.
The thing about Toronto is that with the sheer amount of towers U/C in the city, (and even if the majority of them are clad with blue glass) there are still more new towers that are not blue glass going up than most cities in The U.S. have U/C or even existing all together. The ones that aren't blue glass just tend to get overlooked for some reason.

Currently U/C Massey Tower and 88 Scott will both be just over 200m and neither of them will be blue glass, same with YC condos and Wellesley on the Park which will be just a tad under 200m. There are many more non blue glass towers in the 140-165m range also U/C.

If you took all the non blue glass towers currently U/C, they alone would make up a prominent skyline that would rival that of many existing major cities!
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Old July 5th, 2015, 07:37 PM   #5784
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I think we should let that one go. People have made up their minds on the subject and no one is going to change their opinions. It will just derail the thread if we turn it into all about Toronto's towers. Let's move on to photos of all North American skylines! Please and thanks!
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Old July 5th, 2015, 10:35 PM   #5785
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People often talk as if every single project that goes up should have a sky high budget with unlimited funds. There is a huge difference between starter to mid range condo projects and head office towers for international banks or multinational corporations. The Four Seasons Hotel is the flagship for the entire international chain; of course it is going to use "better glass" than a starter condo that a couple is going to make their first investment on. I'm a bit surprised when people talk as if every tower going up should be built as deluxe as the headquarters of a 20 billion dollar empire. That is rather like asking why every car you see on a freeway does not look like a Maserati or a Ferrari, or why every woman doesn't wear Prada or Dior because it looks nicer. Budgetary constraints make the world go 'round! One does not have to be an economist to know that the amount of money you spend on the tower will be reflected in the final cost of the unit. Condos here are frightfully expensive enough as it is and the average young person simply could not afford a unit in a tower like the Four Seasons. I spoke earlier of our population boom; housing has to be for everyone and not only the very rich!
That's actually very interesting. When I think about it, it seems that many cities actually do take this approach in that nearly all the buildings in the city centre are intended to be high budget show pieces in either high end office or luxury residential and the city centre itself is intended to be a showcase of the finest and glitziest element of the city. Having a range between high medium and lowish budgets seems to be somewhat rare, as lower budget alternatives would either in the form of buildings outside prime areas or older structures that were once considered prestigious and have since lost their lustre. In a North American context, it seem that Toronto is unique in having mid-range new construction.

I wonder if this is something that resulted from city policies or if it was just a consequence of very fast growth?
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Old July 6th, 2015, 02:13 AM   #5786
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Well, I'd hoped that we could steer this topic away from Toronto, as this thread simply isn't just about this city, but it appears it is a subject that people want to examine. I just think downtown Toronto has always had a pretty broad mix of income levels. It is not a elitist millionaires enclave, and it is not a hollowed out shell of a downtown from whence all the wealthy and middle class fled decades ago.

Downtown is a healthy and thriving quilt of neighbourhoods, each with its own flavour and vibe. Everyone wants to live downtown; including businesses and residents alike. The City has been working on replacing a huge old outdated public housing project called Regent Park with a stunning mixed income neighbourhood with room for people of all incomes to discourage ghettoization of poverty. People want to live/work/play in the same neighbourhood. Crime levels are low and the very walkable downtown neighbourhoods have filled sidewalks. Today's Toronto is benefiting from good city planning back in the '70's, and a legislated green belt around the city to prevent suburban sprawl.

I really don't think that people outside of this city, and in particular those from slow growth cities actually grasp just how fast it is growing and how different the challenges and planning here has to be because of that. This is not a city where one new tower is going up every five to ten years, and not it is not a city where wealthy cousins are out-iconic-ing each other building towers that will sit half empty. These are real working buildings with units that must be sold, and are not simply vanity showpieces; therefore we take the income and budget mix as it comes.

City planning ensures they are not just slapping up concrete slab towers, but rather insisting on density from both height and a reasonably small footprint, with retail in the ground level podiums. It is not a perfect city and not all of the buildings are "iconic" or "showpieces", and I understand that this seems to offend some. Yes there are showpieces in the works by the likes of architects like Gehry and Norman Foster, but that is not what Toronto is about; it's about people who have moved from all over the world and are putting down roots here (half the population of Toronto was born outside of Toronto). So, we have our own challenges and our own way of doing things. We are not Vancouver, we are not Boston and we are not New York and quite frankly I think most of us are happy just being Toronto for better or worse.

Okay... if anyone has any more questions or things they'd like to discuss drop me a pm, but please let's let the thread get back to the topic at hand; if I'm finding it a bit boring and the wheels spinning I'll bet most others are feeling the same way. So, let's move on, okay? Thanks!
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Old July 6th, 2015, 05:15 AM   #5787
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Old July 6th, 2015, 05:37 AM   #5788
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A bit older, but great view of NYC:


Global Citizen Festival in Central Park New York City with NYonAir by Anthony Quintano, on Flickr
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Old July 6th, 2015, 06:39 PM   #5790
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Boston skyline rising up behind Beacon Hill

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two skylines on opposite ends of the USA

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I've been critical of Charlotte's skyline before but I'll admit it has some nice pomo buildings, particularly at night. Maybe in a decade or two that style will become more popular.

I love this angle of dowtnown NY. Lots of different periods/styles represented.

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Wonderful picture! I love the layering, density, variety. A true metropolis.
Great picture of a wonderful city.
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Boston - shots like these show why I think it is highly under rated.


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Last night was the opening ceremony of the 2015 Pan Am Games in Toronto!

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They set fireworks off of the CN Tower, and it was pretty incredible!


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