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Old November 11th, 2016, 04:30 AM   #7821
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Old November 11th, 2016, 04:39 AM   #7822
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Old November 11th, 2016, 04:43 AM   #7823
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Old November 11th, 2016, 05:41 AM   #7824
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Does Boston have height restrictions? I was in Boston Nov. last year and it's a wonderful city but it was obvious how 'short' the skyline was?
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Old November 11th, 2016, 07:06 AM   #7825
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Old November 11th, 2016, 01:46 PM   #7826
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Does Boston have height restrictions? I was in Boston Nov. last year and it's a wonderful city but it was obvious how 'short' the skyline was?
It has an airport right by downtown, and a strong NIMBY presense that was catered to by the last mayor's (20 year!) administration.

Worth noting that the 3 tallest buildings in the city (all taller than anything in, say, Vancouver or Montreal), as well as 5 out of the top 10 are missing from the above picture.

A new 2nd tallest is under construction, with 2 more 200m+ buildings supposed to start up over the next year.

Boston also currently has 19 buildings over 150m, among the best in North America. Essentially a very solid "supporting cast" of buildings. It won't look so short once there are some new peaks.

By the way, Boston STILL has a taller building than anything in Sydney. (not counting cheating spires) I do realize this is about to change, but it has been true for 40 years.
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Old November 11th, 2016, 05:26 PM   #7827
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To echo what DZH22 said - there are height restrictions downtown because Logan airport is right across the bay but in the Back Bay area there are none, which is where all the tallest buildings are (and proposed).
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Old November 12th, 2016, 07:46 AM   #7828
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It's worth noting that the 3 cities mentioned (Vancouver, Montreal, and Sydney) all have height restrictions as well. The skylines of those 3 and Boston are all quite comparable although I like Vancouver's the best of the 4.
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Old November 12th, 2016, 06:15 PM   #7829
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Old November 12th, 2016, 08:40 PM   #7830
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It's worth noting that the 3 cities mentioned (Vancouver, Montreal, and Sydney) all have height restrictions as well. The skylines of those 3 and Boston are all quite comparable although I like Vancouver's the best of the 4.
If things hold up, by 2020 Boston will have 5 buildings taller than anything in Montreal and 6 taller than anything in Vancouver. It's a big if, but the 4th one is about to pop out of the ground and the other 2 should start next year. (with more in the pipeline)

Note that I'm not giving Montreal credit for 1250 as the "taller" building, regardless of the official designation. I consider that Montreal's second tallest. The spire is barely even visible a lot of the time. Also, Four Seasons is 756' and not 755' anyway.

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But as we all know with skyscrapers, a bird in the hand is better than 2 in the bush. No better example of this than 1980's Hartford. Right before the recession hit, it was a monster insurance hub with 4 buildings proposed to go over 700', including 2 over 800'. Big plans don't always come to fruition....
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Old November 12th, 2016, 09:40 PM   #7831
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If things hold up, by 2020 Boston will have 5 buildings taller than anything in Montreal and 6 taller than anything in Vancouver.
We're honoured that Vancouver is considered as a comparison for Boston, but Vancouver is only a mid-sized city with only 2.4 million people, similar in size to San Antonio and Orlando, while Boston is a large city with 4.8 million people.

Maybe in twenty or thirty years, Vancouver would be in the same alpha league as Boston, but for now, Vancouver doesn't have the economic clout of an alpha city, it's only a beta city

Sydney, Montreal, San Francisco and Boston are in the same league for comparison (4-5 million people).
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Old November 13th, 2016, 02:06 AM   #7832
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It's worth noting that the 3 cities mentioned (Vancouver, Montreal, and Sydney) all have height restrictions as well. The skylines of those 3 and Boston are all quite comparable although I like Vancouver's the best of the 4.
Sydney definitely has a height restriction but Sydney airport is further away from downtown than Logan is..... and Sydney has a tower over 300m too.
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Old November 13th, 2016, 03:24 AM   #7833
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If things hold up, by 2020 Boston will have 5 buildings taller than anything in Montreal and 6 taller than anything in Vancouver.
Which goes to show that having the tallest doesn't always translate to having the best. I prefer Pittsburgh over Charlotte, for instance. Best is subjective any way.
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Old November 13th, 2016, 03:35 AM   #7834
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We're honoured that Vancouver is considered as a comparison for Boston, but Vancouver is only a mid-sized city with only 2.4 million people, similar in size to San Antonio and Orlando, while Boston is a large city with 4.8 million people.

Maybe in twenty or thirty years, Vancouver would be in the same alpha league as Boston, but for now, Vancouver doesn't have the economic clout of an alpha city, it's only a beta city

Sydney, Montreal, San Francisco and Boston are in the same league for comparison (4-5 million people).
I've looked at 1000s of photos of Vancouver over the years but nothing beats seeing it in person. I finally visited last week for the first time. I've been a critic of the sea of glass condos but have to say that Vancouver is, by a considerable margin, the most beautiful city I've ever been to.

I had to search high and low to find something shabby. Walking around the West End in autumn is a treat, Stanley Park a gem, and even in areas further out the neighbourhoods were gorgeous. Everything just seems a little cuter, a little nicer, a little lusher.

Vancouver may not have the economic heft, cultural influence, or energy of other cities yet but is endowed with things one just can't manufacture. When Vancouver grows to 4-5 million it will be hard to compete with imo.
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Old November 13th, 2016, 07:32 AM   #7835
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Old November 13th, 2016, 12:54 PM   #7836
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^ Wow, didn't see that one coming...
I didn't either. Vancouver is too small for me but was impressed nonetheless.
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Which goes to show that having the tallest doesn't always translate to having the best. I prefer Pittsburgh over Charlotte, for instance. Best is subjective any way.
Pittsburgh's tallest is very close to Charlotte's tallest. It's much easier to ignore 1 taller building than it is to ignore 5-6. Having been to both, Pittsburgh has the better skyline and a substantially better city from an architectural and "bones" standpoint.

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Old November 14th, 2016, 08:01 PM   #7839
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