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Old April 3rd, 2005, 11:15 AM   #1
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Old April 3rd, 2005, 12:21 PM   #2
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mmmmm got some mixed feelings with this. Less and less water.... To do really need this new piece of land?
How many buildings are going to be built on this new piece of land? Any info/rederings on that?
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Old April 3rd, 2005, 01:17 PM   #3
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They reclaim the land, and then they make a huge square in front of two buildings. That's just a shame, if that is the actual plan.
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Old April 3rd, 2005, 02:46 PM   #4
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i support the reclamation plan that can relieve the worsening traffic problems in that busy area, it can improve the air quality. not this empty square.
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Old April 3rd, 2005, 03:25 PM   #5
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mmmmm got some mixed feelings with this. Less and less water.... To do really need this new piece of land?
How many buildings are going to be built on this new piece of land? Any info/rederings on that?
in fact there'll be a 6-lane highway running underneath the reclaimed public square. that's the main purpose of the reclamation rather than building a flyover right in front of these buildigns.
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Old April 3rd, 2005, 04:19 PM   #6
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And the Tung Chung line extension stopping at Tamar and HKCEC?
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Old April 4th, 2005, 12:49 AM   #7
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and a waterfront promenade...

see gehry's swire's proposal--
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Old April 4th, 2005, 02:11 AM   #8
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Looks interesting, but from that render, you'd need to reclaim a lot of land, which am not sure will serve HK greatly.
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Old April 4th, 2005, 02:16 AM   #9
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Pretty soon, Victoria Harbour will be no more if it's being reclaimed at this rate.
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Old April 4th, 2005, 07:19 AM   #10
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This looks cool but we need to see a better rendering of the area. If the land is gonna be reclaimed something supertall and spectacular should be put on it. Whoever is buying this land must be paying a PREMIUM for it. Isn't there a plot of land that is MORE expensive than the supertall that's actually on it? I'm not sure if it's The Centre or Central Plaza. One of those.

Seeing so much "open space" in the rendering looks wasteful if they're gonna reclaim land for nothing more than a couple buildings and pretty much a large brick parking lot with no cars.
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Old April 4th, 2005, 07:29 AM   #11
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There will be a long promenade for recreation use ONLY. No supertalls or whatever is going to be built on it. It will make Hong Kong look more green and spacious.
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Old April 4th, 2005, 07:30 AM   #12
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FM 2258, you are talking about Central Plaza. But i am VERY sure that land price in HK are usually higher than the cost of the building(s), especially if you are talking about downtown area. (i believe it is true for most of the other major cities).

that rendering is a VERY VERY early conceptual plan that was issued some 2-3 years ago. The current plan for the future of Tamar site is still undecided.
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Old April 4th, 2005, 09:49 AM   #13
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also, that rendering is very deceptive in its 'breadth'--the land being reclaimed is perpendicular to that plot of land

in reality, the parcel that is reclaimed land on the rendering is only the section with palms, etc.

again, for an idea of what the reclamation could end up like, check out Rach's thread with Gehry's proposal--look along the central waterfront which connects his proposals
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Old April 4th, 2005, 03:13 PM   #14
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OKay... I think you guys are getting the wrong idea about this reclamation scheme. Firstly, it was planed to give Hong Kong residents open space is a crowded-enough city. It would feature a harbourfront promenade and a big open square. Underneath would be an extension of the expressway in front of the IFC that would link it under Wan Chai and linked above ground to Causeway Bay. IMO, I support this...
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The extent of the reclamation has been a very contentious issue and activists won a ruling in the courts to reduce the amount being proposed. As a result, the current reclamation project cannot connect with the Convention Centre. This is probably the last major reclamation project in downtown Hong Kong as there is a lot of opposition from the people on filling up more of the harbour.

The primary purpose of this project is to build an underground highway while providing a continuous waterfront promenade from Central all the way to the typhoon shelter in Causeway Bay.
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Old April 5th, 2005, 01:03 AM   #16
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seems like a lot of people forgot about the subway extension underground too.
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^I mentioned it hehe :P
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Old April 7th, 2005, 09:43 PM   #18
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Website : http://www.CRIII-cedd.com

The Central Reclamation Phase III (CRIII) Project is the final phase of planned waterfront reclamation in the Central District of Hong Kong Island.

The CRIII Project has evolved significantly since its original conception over a decade ago. In 1997, while the Project design was nearing completion, the “Protection of the Harbour Ordinance” was enacted. As a result, a critical review of the scope of the project was conducted to formulate a scheme that would achieve the objectives of the Harbour Ordinance and provide sufficient land to serve the long-term needs of Hong Kong.

The resulting scheme, referred to as the “Minimum Reclamation Option”, significantly changed the original reclamation configuration; most notably reducing the reclamation from 32 to 18 hectares, with the majority of the transport infrastructure to be located underground. The Project has incorporated reclamation methods and mitigation measures that avoid or reduce environmental impacts during construction. In the long-term, the ultimate design will provide an unprecedented opportunity to create a waterfront that complements Hong Kong’s famous skyline whilst making the best use of the reclaimed land, for both strategic infrastructure and recreational open spaces, serving the community and tourists alike.

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Old April 8th, 2005, 01:50 AM   #19
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Website : http://www.CRIII-cedd.com

The Central Reclamation Phase III (CRIII) Project is the final phase of planned waterfront reclamation in the Central District of Hong Kong Island.

The CRIII Project has evolved significantly since its original conception over a decade ago. In 1997, while the Project design was nearing completion, the “Protection of the Harbour Ordinance” was enacted. As a result, a critical review of the scope of the project was conducted to formulate a scheme that would achieve the objectives of the Harbour Ordinance and provide sufficient land to serve the long-term needs of Hong Kong.

The resulting scheme, referred to as the “Minimum Reclamation Option”, significantly changed the original reclamation configuration; most notably reducing the reclamation from 32 to 18 hectares, with the majority of the transport infrastructure to be located underground. The Project has incorporated reclamation methods and mitigation measures that avoid or reduce environmental impacts during construction. In the long-term, the ultimate design will provide an unprecedented opportunity to create a waterfront that complements Hong Kong’s famous skyline whilst making the best use of the reclaimed land, for both strategic infrastructure and recreational open spaces, serving the community and tourists alike.

Is the rendering of the reclamation you posted correct? You said earlier that the reclamation will not connect with the Convention Centre, but in the picture it does... Even though its fillling up more space in the harbour, I do support this reclamation (being that it is the LAST plan to reclaim in downtown Hong Kong). Also, weren't they planning on reclaiming in Causeway Bay or has that been cancelled due to activists?
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Old April 8th, 2005, 06:24 AM   #20
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The ultimate goal of the Phase 3 reclamation is to finish the job and connect with the Convention Centre. Due to legal challenges, the last part into HKCEC was dropped, and the present project leaves a gap open at that point.
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