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Old April 11th, 2008, 03:52 PM   #501
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Old April 11th, 2008, 08:38 PM   #502
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I don't really mind at all if they decide to build another supertall. There is the demand for more office space and 1 tower is not going to damage the greenery theme across such a huge piece of reclaimed land.
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Old April 11th, 2008, 09:38 PM   #504
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I'd like it more if that fugly Tamar development wasn't there.

But otherwise, I like it, except for the lowrises, reminds me too much of office "towers" I see around the suburbs here.
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Old April 11th, 2008, 10:25 PM   #505
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I'd like it more if that fugly Tamar development wasn't there.

But otherwise, I like it, except for the lowrises, reminds me too much of office "towers" I see around the suburbs here.
Do you mean "highrises" in the suburb standard?
These highrises just look short with all the other super tall next to them.

The quick thought is I hope it will be really that green along the shoreline.
It has a big contrast with the hassling buildings between the greens.

The site is very informative this time, really needs to spend time to go through the materials to get a good understanding.
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Old April 12th, 2008, 06:50 AM   #506
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sigh... I still can't believe they picked such an ugly headquarters building :-(
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Old April 12th, 2008, 08:37 AM   #507
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Nice but it aint no SYDNEY harbour!

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Old April 12th, 2008, 07:02 PM   #508
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Old April 12th, 2008, 07:37 PM   #509
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Old April 14th, 2008, 06:05 AM   #512
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Do you mean "highrises" in the suburb standard?
These highrises just look short with all the other super tall next to them.
They are supertalls by suburban standards, but lowrises by Hong Kong standards!
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Old April 14th, 2008, 06:10 AM   #513
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From the pictures and the table, I like plan B a lot more, looks nicer and minimal moving of Queen's Pier and the Clock Tower.

With my luck, that means plan A will end up getting chosen =/
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Old April 16th, 2008, 12:07 AM   #514
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I like the design of B better but I think A will be chosen just because it makes the waterfront more accessible and the paths and directions of which way to go are clearer.

BTW, when will they make the decision?
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Old April 16th, 2008, 02:15 AM   #515
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i prefer plan B too ...
honestly ... who ACTUALLY go to the waterfront ??? lol ...
i rarely do ...

i agree with the saying that "we cannot go from one extreme to the other"
seriously ... there are so little commercial developments going on there ...
i think the water front will be so empty ...

maybe except for sunday ... if u know wat i mean ... lol ...

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Old April 16th, 2008, 02:42 PM   #516
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If they do the park right, I'll consider going jogging there during lunch, much like what a lot of Sydneysiders do now. We need a more healthy lifestyle besides work, work, and more work.
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i prefer plan B too ...
honestly ... who ACTUALLY go to the waterfront ??? lol ...
i rarely do ...

i agree with the saying that "we cannot go from one extreme to the other"
seriously ... there are so little commercial developments going on there ...
i think the water front will be so empty ...

maybe except for sunday ... if u know wat i mean ... lol ...
No prizes for guessing this one.
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Old April 16th, 2008, 07:28 PM   #518
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i prefer plan B too ...
honestly ... who ACTUALLY go to the waterfront ??? lol ...
i rarely do ...

i agree with the saying that "we cannot go from one extreme to the other"
seriously ... there are so little commercial developments going on there ...
i think the water front will be so empty ...

maybe except for sunday ... if u know wat i mean ... lol ...
I would if I could find a way to go to the waterfront... the only place I go right now are the piers in Central.

And I like having a building in front of the IFC, shields it a little bit to make it look not so frigging huge.

And about the Sunday thing, I guess putting them in the waterfront is better than having them clog up all the streets in Central...lol
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Old April 16th, 2008, 08:18 PM   #519
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Personally prefer B a lot more than A. Just not because it has much more green and tries to hide the roads, but also it put Queen's Pier at where it should be. Moving it to between Pier 9 and 10 is just pointless.

But I like the hotel + office buildings option in A than office + office in B and I like the fountain square at Pier 9 and 10 in A, too.

One thing I guess not too many people notice is the proposed 150m long military berth and 150m radius building restriction on either end just in front of PLA HQ. It is a total of 450m.

How long is 150m berth alone? It is about one-forth(25%) to one-fifth(20%) of the entire promenade length, it is indeed relatively very long. It is about the entire length of straight edge to the left as shown in Gakei's picture below. All the pictures and models have published to the public are telling us that area and the harbour is fully accessible by the public. But no one knows how accessible will that 150m - 200m of shore is, and how big will that berth be.

The government is probably hiding the information to the public as an excuse of "national security."



Design Constraints (Click to enlarge)

Source: http://www.pland.gov.hk/p_study/prog...onstraints.jpg

Master Plan A (Click to enlarge)

Source: http://www.pland.gov.hk/p_study/prog...s_eng/OI18.jpg

Master Plan B (Click to enlarge)

Source: http://www.pland.gov.hk/p_study/prog...s_eng/OI19.jpg

You can find more concept plans and details at:
http://www.pland.gov.hk/p_study/prog...erinfo_eng.htm
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One thing I guess not too many people notice is the proposed 150m long military berth and 150m radius building restriction on either end just in front of PLA HQ. It is a total of 450m.

How long is 150m berth alone? It is about one-forth(25%) to one-fifth(20%) of the entire promenade length, it is indeed relatively very long. It is about the entire length of straight edge to the left as shown in Gakei's picture below. All the pictures and models have published to the public are telling us that area and the harbour is fully accessible by the public. But no one knows how accessible will that 150m - 200m of shore is, and how big will that berth be.

The government is probably hiding the information to the public as an excuse of "national security."
Ideally, it would be nice if the military can move out of the central waterfront area and locate elsewhere.
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