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Old April 9th, 2005, 09:31 PM   #21
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he just want to agitate other uninformed people to continue their hatred of China.
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Old April 9th, 2005, 10:32 PM   #22
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Old April 15th, 2005, 04:47 PM   #23
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there are somrthing more


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Old April 16th, 2005, 08:20 AM   #24
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although the Three Gorges Dam has a large power capacity (22 MW) against 15 MW from Itaipu Dam. Itaipu still produces more energy per year due to the Paraná River being more constant the the Yang Tze river.
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Old May 16th, 2005, 07:12 PM   #25
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here is the three gorge dam!
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Old May 18th, 2005, 07:12 AM   #26
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People are protesting this project for one of three main reasons:

1 - Over 2 million people are being re-located by force, including some villages that have been in the same spot virtually untouched by civilization and technology for thousands of years. And the housing that they are building for these people is considered a "step down" in quality at best.

2 - The Three Gorges is not only naturally beautiful, but it's a huge tourist draw. And now it's going to be underwater.

3 - The reservoir the dam is creating just might be the most polluted body of water on earth, because not only are they not clearing out man-made infrastructure, they're dumping all kinds of raw industrial waste and toxins into it like it's a giant sewer. The reservoir has just begun to fill up and even by its own government standards, it's polluted... badly.

BONUS 4 - This dam is 600 feet tall and a mile wide. And during construction they've found massive cracks in it. God forbid if this dam ever failed it would make previous Yangtze floods look like a picnic.


** I'm not saying I agree with these arguments and that the pros outweigh the cons, I just thought I'd put these up for people to think about.
These are (a small fraction of the) reasons to build this dam, that respond to your point :
1 : you can choose having 2M people moved away at one, or dozens of millions being flooded periodically (with a number of casualties), tell me which you do prefer...
2 : considering the Yangtze valley as a natural sanctuaire seems to me like the strangest idea. It is the economic heart of China, so you can't really stop development there just because it is a 'nice place'. And 200m won't make so much of the difference in a 1km deep valley. you won't see the dam, just a lake, so it doesn't affect the landscape in a too ugly manner, it will just change it.
3 : actually, this applies with o without the dam. The real issue seems to me to be the waste management in China. In France, it only took two years for the Leman Lake to be clean again, after the build up of a new sewage system (Leman is roughly 15km*50km*400m). Now it is so clean there are less weed, so there are fewer fish in the lake!!!!
4 : assouan in Egypt is a construction of the same kind, and no one is making apocalyptic predictings about it.

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By Duncan Graham-Rowe - The New Scientist

Seasonal changes in water depth mean there is a continuous supply of decaying material. In the dry season plants colonise the banks of the reservoir only to be engulfed when the water level rises. For shallow-shelving reservoirs these “drawdown” regions can account for several thousand square kilometres.

In effect man-made reservoirs convert carbon dioxide in the atmosphere into methane. This is significant because methane’s effect on global warming is 21 times stronger than carbon dioxide’s.
Actualy, the name "Three Gorges Dam" speaks for itself : the Yangtze valley, is very steep there, so this risk in insignificant.
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Old May 18th, 2005, 10:46 AM   #27
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HUGE..........
but still feel sorry bout village people who have to move.........
and those old houses will be under water................
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Old May 18th, 2005, 11:45 AM   #28
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Damn!!! hahahahahahahahahahaha
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Old May 19th, 2005, 02:23 PM   #29
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They had a program (partly) about this on CNN, impressive at $30 billion or so the cost of this, but what happened to the people and I've seen that before and now isn't good.

Anyways, definately one of the world's greatest projects size-wise, complexity, cost and importance.
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Old May 19th, 2005, 02:58 PM   #30
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Maybe one of the most important construction of the world history!
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Old May 20th, 2005, 01:28 AM   #31
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The project is a disaster waiting to happen. First of all it floods a huge area of a land and second of all it is built in an earthquake prone area.
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Old May 20th, 2005, 01:51 AM   #32
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i despise this project with passion
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Old May 20th, 2005, 07:43 AM   #33
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I love this project, so glad to see it come to life.
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Old May 20th, 2005, 08:20 AM   #34
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The project is a disaster waiting to happen. First of all it floods a huge area of a land and second of all it is built in an earthquake prone area.

This project was meant to prevent flood disasters. Before building this dam I am confident that engineers have considered all the possibility of what could go wrong.
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Old May 21st, 2005, 06:09 AM   #35
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This project was meant to prevent flood disasters. Before building this dam I am confident that engineers have considered all the possibility of what could go wrong.
Prevent floods? Yeah, just like what the Shimantan and Banqiao dams were supposed to. This is an absolute disaster. They don't have the same standards of construction and maintenance in China as they do in developed countries. The only reason for the construction of this is foolish national pride.
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Old May 21st, 2005, 06:17 AM   #36
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tell those to family members of people died in 1998.
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Old July 4th, 2005, 04:30 PM   #37
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good news, we can go to the top and visit it now. but every day only 1000 people can do this.



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Old July 4th, 2005, 05:08 PM   #38
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Very impressive and so massive. In China, everything is bigger...
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Old July 4th, 2005, 05:39 PM   #39
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Very impressive and so massive. In China, everything is bigger...
Maybe not everything.....

So did they figure out that silt or whatever problem? I remember watching a program on it and they said they might have a problem with silt buildup under the dam, or something.
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Old July 5th, 2005, 12:19 AM   #40
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tell those to family members of people died in 1998.
Tell that to the 200,000 + people who were killed when those dams burst.
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