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Old May 7th, 2006, 02:36 AM   #121
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who cares about dolphins? the people are more important, some people never cease to amaze me.
Dolphins are important too. We all have to share this blue ball called Earth, and we're all interdependent.
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who cares about dolphins? the people are more important, some people never cease to amaze me.
yes but modernization should not come with the price of destroying nature.
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Old May 7th, 2006, 02:41 AM   #123
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Will The Three Gorges Dam be visible from the moon?
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Old May 7th, 2006, 02:43 AM   #124
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Will The Three Gorges Dam be visible from the moon?
LOL no. You can't see anything from the moon except the outlines of continents and stuff.
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Old May 7th, 2006, 02:51 AM   #125
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I think that China did the right thing for its people in building this magnificent dam, and I think that it is doing the right thing in building nuclear power plants. The situation is simple: (1) Energy is needed; (2) dams and nuclear power plants are the most efficient, the cleanest and the overall best way to provide the needed energy. Also, there is no danager of invaders successfully destroying the dam, simply because missiles can be placed nearby to prevent this. In essence, the Chinese government, in regard to providing energy for its people, is doing an absolutely outstanding job. The same could not be said of many other governments.

I agree, this dam is the right thing for China. China has alot of smart people and I bet they got all the forseeable problems taken care of like the sediment buildup and other stuff.

By the way, how are they going to solve the problem of sediment buildup? That would be interesting to know.
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Old May 7th, 2006, 02:55 AM   #126
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The Three Gorges Dam will be the China's second Great Wall. I can't wait to see the great water resovoir. Just imagine when you dive into this great lake, you see lost cities that are buried in water because of this dam. Fengdu is one example, if you know any other, please list.
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Old May 7th, 2006, 02:58 AM   #127
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^ Heh, you'd have to get pretty close to them. The water isn't clear, and it will be pretty deep. It would be cool to see them... but the water is too dirty
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Old May 7th, 2006, 03:05 AM   #128
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what will they do with the cemeteries, they can't just let them all flooded
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Old May 7th, 2006, 03:21 AM   #129
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I agree, this dam is the right thing for China. China has alot of smart people and I bet they got all the forseeable problems taken care of like the sediment buildup and other stuff.

By the way, how are they going to solve the problem of sediment buildup? That would be interesting to know.
Based on the mathematical model, the sedimentation will reach equilibrium after 80-100 years and render 80% of original reservoir volumn.
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Old May 7th, 2006, 03:21 AM   #130
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Hydroelectricity is a relatively clean source of power compared to nuclear and fossil fuels. It has some disadvantages: Population has to be resettled. Heritage buildings are sites are submerged. Species that rely on river environment are challenged in the proximity of the dam, yet the creation of artificial lake changes substrate of water and new species arise.

But it is STILL one of the best options out there.
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Old May 7th, 2006, 03:24 AM   #131
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what will they do with the cemeteries, they can't just let them all flooded
All of the historically important sites will be relocated except one, where an underwater meseum will be built.

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Old May 7th, 2006, 03:43 AM   #132
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All of the historically important sites will be relocated except one, where an underwater meseum will be built.
That will be awesome if its actually done. Any sources on this?
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an underwater museum? like an aquarium or something
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Old May 7th, 2006, 04:07 AM   #134
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http://www.china.org.cn/english/culture/43311.htm

China to Build Underwater Museum at Three Gorges

Construction of an underwater museum housing the world's oldest hydrologic inscriptions detailing the Yangtze River's water levels in the reservoir of the Three Gorges Project will start early next year.

The underwater museum is the brainchild of Chinese scientist Ge Xiurun, a member of the Chinese Academy of Engineering.


The inscriptions dating back 1,200 years, appear on a 1,600 meter by 16 meter horizontal stone girder commonly known as Baiheliang which records the history of the river's levels.


An original protection plan expected that when the massive water control project was being built on the river's middle reaches; the inscribed girder would be buried naturally by silting at the bottom of the reservoir formed behind the dam.


However, Ge suggested it should be possible to build an underwater museum at the middle of the girder where the inscriptions are concentrated. Underwater lighting will be installed so visitors can view the inscriptions via glass windows.   


Ge explained the top of the underwater museum would be submerged when the water level was high and would stand above the water surface when the level was low.


According to the academician, details of the design to protect the pillar are fixed and have been approved by the authorities.


Ge is confident the major part of the underwater museum will be finished during two dry seasons.


The Three Gorges Project, situated near Yichang in central China's Hubei Province, comprises 26 generating units, each with a 700,000-kilowatt capacity.


The first group of four units will be installed and begin generating power in 2003. The entire project will be finished by 2009. On completion, it will be the world's largest hydropower project with a total capacity of 18.2 million kilowatts and an annual output of 84.68 billion kilowatt-hours of electricity.


(Xinhua News Agency September 17, 2002)


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Old May 7th, 2006, 04:14 AM   #135
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Sounds like this water museum will be the first one of its kind in history.
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Old May 7th, 2006, 04:21 AM   #136
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The overriding principle of this world is NATIONAL INTEREST, not democracy or human rights. Hence a good country always STAYS AWAY FROM other countries, while a bad one always CARES ABOUT others.
How can you say what the "NATIONAL INTERESTS" are when you don't allow people to freely express their own? Rather, in a country where power is in the hands of the few, whether that be China, the United States, or Algeria for all I care, those with the power use it to impose their PERSONAL INTERESTS on everyone else irrespective of whether that coincides with anything good happening for the country or not.
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Old May 7th, 2006, 04:28 AM   #137
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The most recent update is unfotunetly in Chinese.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/photo/2006...nt_4478684.htm
目前,2002年2月开工建设的重庆白鹤梁水下博物馆工程进展顺利,参观廊道和水下拱形保护体主体工程已经全部建设完毕。整个工程包括地面陈列馆、交通及参观廊道、水下保护体三部分,预计将于2007年上半年竣工。建成后的白鹤梁水下博物馆,将在长江水下40多米的保护体中向游人开放,届时游人可通过一条水下通道透过玻璃罩式的承压窗口观看石刻。 位于三峡库区的白鹤梁水文石刻是一条长达1.6公里的古老石刻带,它记录了1200多年来72个枯水年份的长江水位资料,堪称保存完好的“世界第一古代水文站”,并因历代文人墨客留下的3万多字美妙诗文真迹题刻被誉为“水下碑林”。 新华社记者摄

A brief translation is that the Bai'he'liang Underwater Museum will be completed in first half of 2007. The museum is 40 meters underneath water, in which there will be a 1.6 km ancient sculpture belt documenting thousands years of poems and hydrological records.

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Old May 7th, 2006, 04:35 AM   #138
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How can you say what the "NATIONAL INTERESTS" are when you don't allow people to freely express their own? Rather, in a country where power is in the hands of the few, whether that be China, the United States, or Algeria for all I care, those with the power use it to impose their PERSONAL INTERESTS on everyone else irrespective of whether that coincides with anything good happening for the country or not.
1. I hope someone like you would really stay away from China politics coz I am really sick of this kind of argument, okay?

2. with regard to your question, read this http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=345718

3. China's gov't has support from majority of Chinese people, some control is needed in order for social stability and economic growth.

4. US has already bankrupted Russia, so stay from China, clear?
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thnx for the info.
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If you want to stay out of Chinese politics, don't keep nationalistic political statements for your signature on this site.
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