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Old May 7th, 2006, 04:40 AM   #141
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what i wrote is truth, i know the reason why us is interested in china is simply because China develops too fast.
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Old May 7th, 2006, 04:41 AM   #142
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3. China's gov't has support from majority of Chinese people, some control is needed in order for social stability and economic growth.
If the Chinese government really had the support of the majority of Chinese people, they wouldn't be so afraid of democracy and human rights.

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4. US has already bankrupted Russia, so stay from China, clear?
Quit equating everyone opposed to what's happening in China to the United States. I am not a country. I am an individual. George Bush doesn't speak for me.
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Old May 7th, 2006, 04:43 AM   #143
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What's wrong with China's rapid development, I really want the people to have high standards of living like in the West. How long will it take for China to be developed. The US only afraid communism spreading, and maybe more oversea's companies will come to China and U.S' people will lost their jobs.
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Old May 7th, 2006, 04:45 AM   #144
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what i wrote is truth, i know the reason why us is interested in china is simply because China develops too fast.
That simply isn't true. I couldn't give a rat's ass about which country is developing fastest or who is building the most skyscrapers. I care first and foremost about people and how they are treated. The country they come from matters little.
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Old May 7th, 2006, 04:48 AM   #145
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If the Chinese government really had the support of the majority of Chinese people, they wouldn't be so afraid of democracy and human rights.
HK, TW, Singapore and S Korea were not democracy until quasi-developed level, while US-modeled philipine was the second richest country in Asia 50 years ago but now is even behind China.
China has her own agenda to achieve democracy.
While in India 47% of under five children are underweight, you really think the right to vote is more important than enough food and good education for every child?



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Quit equating everyone opposed to what's happening in China to the United States. I am not a country. I am an individual. George Bush doesn't speak for me.
What do you want to say? I don't understand.
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Old May 7th, 2006, 04:49 AM   #146
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What's wrong with China's rapid development, I really want the people to have high standards of living like in the West. How long will it take for China to be developed. The US only afraid communism spreading, and maybe more oversea's companies will come to China and U.S' people will lost their jobs.
Is China spreading commuism? think again.
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That simply isn't true. I couldn't give a rat's ass about which country is developing fastest or who is building the most skyscrapers. I care first and foremost about people and how they are treated. The country they come from matters little.
The people who live in Communist countries are treated fine but they have limited rights such as critizing the government isn't allow. Why is it a misconception of the Westerners that Communist is bad and everything. I dont' get it.
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Old May 7th, 2006, 04:51 AM   #148
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Is China spreading commuism? think again.
many documents have it. When China becomes a superpower more countries with corrupted government will look up to China as a role model. Is this not possible or what?
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Old May 7th, 2006, 04:51 AM   #149
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That simply isn't true. I couldn't give a rat's ass about which country is developing fastest or who is building the most skyscrapers. I care first and foremost about people and how they are treated. The country they come from matters little.
Yeah, in India 47% under five children is underweight, clear?
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Old May 7th, 2006, 04:51 AM   #150
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Is China spreading commuism? think again.
Of course.
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Old May 7th, 2006, 04:53 AM   #151
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many documents have it. When China becomes a superpower more countries with corrupted government will look up to China as a role model. Is this not possible or what?
Every country has the right to choose the way to develop, they have the right to learn from China. But China is not spreading anything.
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Children in America aren't as respectful as those in China, that's what I dislike about democracy
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Old May 7th, 2006, 04:55 AM   #153
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Every country has the right to choose the way to develop, they have the right to learn from China. But China is not spreading anything.
What about all the chinatowns in almost every cities in the world, lol.
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What's wrong with China's rapid development, I really want the people to have high standards of living like in the West. How long will it take for China to be developed. The US only afraid communism spreading, and maybe more oversea's companies will come to China and U.S' people will lost their jobs.
1. China is not communist. It is authoritarian capitalism with more than a touch of expansionist nationalism.
2. Development itself is not a problem, in my opinion. It is the particular way that development happens in China, and in most of the rest of the world for that matter, that I have a problem with. The vast, vast majority of people slaving away building that dam, or working 14 hour days sewing clothes for 500 yuan a month, are never going to see real benefits of their labor.
3. The Three Gorges damn in particular is an example of shoddy development. In addition to the environmental problems this will cause, it has been shown that a series of smaller dams would have been cheaper, more environmentally friendly, and generated more power.
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Old May 7th, 2006, 04:58 AM   #155
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What about all the chinatowns in almost every cities in the world, lol.
are we talking about emmigration or politics?
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Old May 7th, 2006, 04:59 AM   #156
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Every country has the right to choose the way to develop, they have the right to learn from China. But China is not spreading anything.
Ask the people of the Niger Delta if they believe that, or people from Vietnam who fought back the Chinese invasion just a few years after they fought the U.S.
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1. China is not communist. It is authoritarian capitalism with more than a touch of expansionist nationalism.
2. Development itself is not a problem, in my opinion. It is the particular way that development happens in China, and in most of the rest of the world for that matter, that I have a problem with. The vast, vast majority of people slaving away building that dam, or working 14 hour days sewing clothes for 500 yuan a month, are never going to see real benefits of their labor.
3. The Three Gorges damn in particular is an example of shoddy development. In addition to the environmental problems this will cause, it has been shown that a series of smaller dams would have been cheaper, more environmentally friendly, and generated more power.
series of smaller dams? how is this possible with the width of the Yangze
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Ask the people of the Niger Delta if they believe that, or people from Vietnam who fought back the Chinese invasion just a few years after they fought the U.S.
What Chinese invasion did Vietnam fight do you have any facts to this.
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The people who live in Communist countries are treated fine but they have limited rights such as critizing the government isn't allow. Why is it a misconception of the Westerners that Communist is bad and everything. I dont' get it.
No, people working for 500 yuan a month working 14 hours in unsafe factories are not being treated "fine". They are being used as fodder to line a few people's pockets and to create cheap junk for others to consume.
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Old May 7th, 2006, 05:02 AM   #160
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Ask the people of the Niger Delta if they believe that,
There are also people in Nigeria believe that.Eventually it is Nigerian's choice, and they can turn it down if majority say no.

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or people from Vietnam who fought back the Chinese invasion just a few years after they fought the U.S.
It is a response to VN's invasion to cambodia.
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