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Old April 20th, 2005, 02:11 PM   #21
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Good news, since you rarely see skyscrapers in Rome. I am glad it is not in the historical center though. I think this thing on the top should be in the middle of the roof though.
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Old April 20th, 2005, 03:31 PM   #22
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The rendering is also a catastrophe. I wait for a better one to make up my mind.
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Old April 20th, 2005, 08:44 PM   #23
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Not sure i like that one... Somehow, from looking at that mexican version, it seems that an arched building like that should be the surprise at a centre of a cluster, not a stand alone.
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Old April 22nd, 2005, 12:27 AM   #24
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I see Nightsky has made a nice drawing of the building for the Rome-diagram on Skyscraperpage :

http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?c896



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Old April 22nd, 2005, 01:34 AM   #25
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Some of the proposals look very nice!
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Old April 22nd, 2005, 02:24 AM   #26
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Rome should definitely follow Paris's example and keep the skyscrapers out of the old city. It looks like many of the skyscrapers standing now are in a segregated area, even if they are surrounded by the old city. These new buildings should definitely be built outside of the city limits, IMHO.
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Old April 22nd, 2005, 02:54 AM   #27
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No. Please not in Rome. Anywhere else but Rome.
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Old April 22nd, 2005, 04:32 AM   #28
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Yes but EUR is far from the historical center, even further from the city than La Defense in Paris for example. EUR and it's modern buildings are not visble from the center. On this website you find a good description of the area :

http://www.italyheaven.co.uk/rome/areas/eur.html


EUR started as a giant project during the fascist era for the World Fair of 1942.It was designed as a "modern vision" of a New Rome, a completely new city outside Rome. Of course with a fascist inspiration and thus with monumental neo-classical buildings but also with modern "rationalistic" architecture. The construction began in the 1930's but was stopped when World War II started. Maybe 70% of the project was finished, but some buildings were left partially constructed, others such as the huge Arc of the Empire, a 320 meter high landmark that was to be one of the main attractions of the fair, remained forever on the drawing table. In the fifties the world forgot about the World Fair that never happened. The only reminder was EUR ,a strange semi-finished town in the fields outside Rome with monumental buildings in travertine.









some pictures made by SdR (a member of the Italian Forum)

Eur Masterplan 1939 :


Arc of the Empire :


But the city grew fast and in the sixties the ambition was back to realize new things. There were the Olympics of 1960 and the need for infrastructure. And so it was decided to regenerate EUR. The gaps in the old masterplan were filled in :with sporting facilities for the Games (Palazzo dello Sport....).The artificial lake was constructed and the metro-line that was already planned to connect the World Fair with the city, was finished.



The city also needed modern buildings and offices for the government departments... . So it was convenient that there was this modern mini-city already waiting outside Rome to be developed. EUR got it's first office-buildings and "highrise"buildings. Rome for more than 40 years had the vision of relocating all offices of the governement, city-council, university,UN-FAO,...to a real modern Central Business District called SDO (Sistema Direzionale Orientale). Renzo Piano designed skyscrapers for the SDO, Kenzo Tange worked years on a masterplan...but after decades of talking and dreaming, the SDO is still a paper dream. Meanwhile however EUR took the role as "Rome's modern city", a roman version of a CBD. And it is still developping today, with the Europarco but also with projects like the convention center that will go under construction within a few weeks :




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Old May 19th, 2005, 06:30 PM   #29
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don't like it at all
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Old May 19th, 2005, 06:42 PM   #30
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the area of the Europarco looks very modern. but the so called skyscraper is common.
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Old May 20th, 2005, 08:05 AM   #31
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Thank god its no where near the Historical Heart. This is a dodgy building possibly made with lego that goes over the top with a hideous antenna. Frankly, this building looks like a 3 year olds design and the antenna looks like an after thought. If i was a roman id quickly become one of those anti development people that protest highrises. No wonder Rome dosent build much skyscrapers...
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Old May 20th, 2005, 02:20 PM   #32
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White skyscrapers never work. Go and take a look at city tower in Manchester built in the 60s it was white but it sure aint now.
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Old May 20th, 2005, 07:00 PM   #33
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Rome needs skyscrapers, but this is a terrible design. The antenna is creative but very distracting. The rest of the building...
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Old May 20th, 2005, 07:59 PM   #34
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Thanks, Caesars Palace, this addition of this building makes Rome's diagram a little bit more interesting since there are almost no highrises there.
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Old May 20th, 2005, 08:20 PM   #35
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actually i like the skyscraper (altho its height pales in asia's standard of skyscrapers - so should we even call it that?) but its solidness and bauhaus skin tone and colour makes it very italian. EUR, for one, is almost fascist in its exaltation of the ubiquitous Italian arch. Of course its unfair of me to associate fascism with contemporary Italian architecture, but i guess its just that business activities in Italy, such economy driving enterprises, go way back in history with Italy's whole movement of nationalism. In quick steps of sequence we saw the kingdom unification, the rise of the Facist party under Mussolini, and general industrialisation of a country otherwise popularised by its bucolic olive grove imagery. Business districts like this, just like in Paris, were designed by planners to be collectivised away from the original urban centres in solitary clumps of a unison style. Individual designs for the EUR then tingled with concepts of state engineered excellence in the business industry, and in the EUR's case, fascism lingered too recent in history for the minimalist whitewashed edifices to be construed as anything but.

But very italian! i think it works.
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Old May 22nd, 2005, 12:52 AM   #36
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Now I know why São Paulo architecture is not that great... because of the city was like 50% born in italy in 1900!!

On the other hand, the first São Paulo skyscraper, built by an italian in 1928, the Martinelly building, is awesome.
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Old May 22nd, 2005, 01:04 AM   #37
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reminds me of the proposal of 2012 olympics residence in queens, NYC
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Old November 1st, 2005, 07:16 PM   #38
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great and class.looking like mussolinian architecture.
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