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deskoh91 · August 12th, 2011, 02:25 PM

to maintain 7 mins between both branches will require 3.5 mins off peak between harbourfront and promenade, something SMRT will be reluctant to do, which is why I suggested the more likely alternative.

then again, considering they don't even want to reduce the off peak frequency of the busier mainlines properly, it is possible we will see 6 mins frequency, with every third train stopping at the less busy branch (likely CCLe)

circleline4 · August 12th, 2011, 02:52 PM

Imagine the RATIS at Bayfront to display 20 minutes for the next train. You can imagine how many people would be stomping and cursing SMRT with that kind of frequency.

Probably commuters who just missed the train would try the other alternative when the DTL opens. Don't forget, the Promenade bound CCL and DTL platforms are on the same level. Many would be willing to turn the other way and board the DTL, interchange at Promenade, and transfer back to the CCL there. I'm sure that can be done within 20 minutes.

ddes · August 12th, 2011, 05:09 PM

I think the operation will be a lot more complex. I've to travel to Marina Bay Sands rather frequently for work purposes so this is a first-hand experience.

The truth is, Marina Bay Sands is virtually empty on weekdays and weeknights except for tourists who will visit Sands AND the Marina Bay area as part of a day trip, negating much need for rail transport. Do bear in mind that Singapore markets "Marina Bay" very strongly overseas, so the new skyline at Marina Bay - MBFC, Asia Square, ORQ, OUE Bayfront, Fullerton Heritage, Merlion (naturally) and the bay promenade are also "must-sees". What this means is that Raffles Place station has become the unexpected winner in the development - Raffles Place is NO LONGER quiet on the weekends already. Promenade station on the other hand, does not deliver as much people as I had expected, with most of the crowds being locals going to Suntec City and Millenia Walk.

I can only imagine that the CCLe's real purpose and SMRT's focus will be on Marina Bay station, allowing EWL passengers to bypass Raffles Place to get to the new downtown. I guess what I'm trying to say is that DBG-Promenade is very useless, and will lightly see less frequencies.

It will be very interesting to see who gets to operate the DTL because that'd mean SMRT can co-ordinate schedules according to real-time demand rather than second-guessing what might happen to achieve efficiency and profitability.

luacs1998 · August 22nd, 2011, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddes

I think the operation will be a lot more complex. I've to travel to Marina Bay Sands rather frequently for work purposes so this is a first-hand experience.

The truth is, Marina Bay Sands is virtually empty on weekdays and weeknights except for tourists who will visit Sands AND the Marina Bay area as part of a day trip, negating much need for rail transport. Do bear in mind that Singapore markets "Marina Bay" very strongly overseas, so the new skyline at Marina Bay - MBFC, Asia Square, ORQ, OUE Bayfront, Fullerton Heritage, Merlion (naturally) and the bay promenade are also "must-sees". What this means is that Raffles Place station has become the unexpected winner in the development - Raffles Place is NO LONGER quiet on the weekends already. Promenade station on the other hand, does not deliver as much people as I had expected, with most of the crowds being locals going to Suntec City and Millenia Walk.

I can only imagine that the CCLe's real purpose and SMRT's focus will be on Marina Bay station, allowing EWL passengers to bypass Raffles Place to get to the new downtown. I guess what I'm trying to say is that DBG-Promenade is very useless, and will lightly see less frequencies.

It will be very interesting to see who gets to operate the DTL because that'd mean SMRT can co-ordinate schedules according to real-time demand rather than second-guessing what might happen to achieve efficiency and profitability.

My take:
The shuttle would most likely take PYL-MRB to use the middle platform @ PYL.
one-north SWTs terminate like trains @ YIS.

circleline4 · August 22nd, 2011, 02:21 PM

You forgot one thing, PYL's middle track is only accessible from the direction of HBF, not MRB. Furthermore, even if the middle track wes accessible from MRB, the middle platform would already be used for the Paya Lebar - one-north SWT. You wouldn't want 2 trains coming from opposite directions colliding into each other, do you?

mrtfreak · August 28th, 2011, 02:35 AM

Guess where.

image hosted on flickr

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3012/...d597a59126.jpg

circleline4 · August 28th, 2011, 02:42 AM

HarbourFront?? :0

mrtfreak · August 28th, 2011, 03:01 AM

Bingo. Kind of a rare sight? Here's another...

image hosted on flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5299/...178c7cac73.jpg

Seloloving · August 28th, 2011, 05:00 AM

Um, how exactly is that a rare sight? o.o

mrtfreak · August 28th, 2011, 11:21 AM

First photo was taken at HarbourFront platform B which is hardly ever used. Secondly, the train seen behind is actually on the reverse siding, which again, is hardly ever used. So the combination of those means its not a commonly seen sight.

Seloloving · August 28th, 2011, 03:47 PM

I wouldn't say hardly ever used. I would say rarely sighted.

Nice photos nevertheless.

mrtfreak · August 28th, 2011, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seloloving

I wouldn't say hardly ever used. I would say rarely sighted.

Nice photos nevertheless.

Then you've just answered your own question.

Seloloving · August 28th, 2011, 03:59 PM

I am an idiot. Proven.

samuel_1991 · August 29th, 2011, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrtfreak

Bingo. Kind of a rare sight? Here's another...

image hosted on flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5299/...178c7cac73.jpg

Punggol?

Seloloving · August 29th, 2011, 09:15 AM

HarbourFront. Still need a photo? I am going out now.

mrtfreak · August 29th, 2011, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samuel_1991

Punggol?

Yup, yup. Punggol. Should be the HarbourFront bound platform at all other stations.

samuel_1991 · August 29th, 2011, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seloloving

HarbourFront. Still need a photo? I am going out now.

Yes please. I would like to confirm if it is a Scissors like DBG or not. But I am sure that the trains can crossover to Platform B before parking AND trains can crossover to platform B instead AFTER the parking since I had taken the DNBs before.

Seloloving · August 29th, 2011, 09:21 AM

Um, which direction do you want, exactly? Facing the overrun tunnels or facing the OTP bound tunnel?

samuel_1991 · August 29th, 2011, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seloloving

Um, which direction do you want, exactly? Facing the overrun tunnels or facing the OTP bound tunnel?

Facing the overrun. OTP bound tunnel I am relatively familiar. Thanks.

Seloloving · August 29th, 2011, 11:11 AM

Tunnel too dark, could not take anything noteworthy, will try again when the tunnel lights are on, sorry.

August 12th, 2011, 02:52 PM	#1022
circleline4 Relax, take it easy. Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,574 Likes (Received): 14	Imagine the RATIS at Bayfront to display 20 minutes for the next train. You can imagine how many people would be stomping and cursing SMRT with that kind of frequency. Probably commuters who just missed the train would try the other alternative when the DTL opens. Don't forget, the Promenade bound CCL and DTL platforms are on the same level. Many would be willing to turn the other way and board the DTL, interchange at Promenade, and transfer back to the CCL there. I'm sure that can be done within 20 minutes. __________________ - Recycle paper for more sunshine - O levels this year!!

August 22nd, 2011, 02:21 PM	#1025
circleline4 Relax, take it easy. Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,574 Likes (Received): 14	You forgot one thing, PYL's middle track is only accessible from the direction of HBF, not MRB. Furthermore, even if the middle track wes accessible from MRB, the middle platform would already be used for the Paya Lebar - one-north SWT. You wouldn't want 2 trains coming from opposite directions colliding into each other, do you? __________________ - Recycle paper for more sunshine - O levels this year!!

August 28th, 2011, 02:42 AM	#1027
circleline4 Relax, take it easy. Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,574 Likes (Received): 14	HarbourFront?? :0 __________________ - Recycle paper for more sunshine - O levels this year!!

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August 12th, 2011, 02:25 PM	#1021
deskoh91 Land Transport Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,522 Likes (Received): 5	to maintain 7 mins between both branches will require 3.5 mins off peak between harbourfront and promenade, something SMRT will be reluctant to do, which is why I suggested the more likely alternative. then again, considering they don't even want to reduce the off peak frequency of the busier mainlines properly, it is possible we will see 6 mins frequency, with every third train stopping at the less busy branch (likely CCLe)

August 12th, 2011, 05:09 PM	#1023
ddes Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5,251 Likes (Received): 31	I think the operation will be a lot more complex. I've to travel to Marina Bay Sands rather frequently for work purposes so this is a first-hand experience. The truth is, Marina Bay Sands is virtually empty on weekdays and weeknights except for tourists who will visit Sands AND the Marina Bay area as part of a day trip, negating much need for rail transport. Do bear in mind that Singapore markets "Marina Bay" very strongly overseas, so the new skyline at Marina Bay - MBFC, Asia Square, ORQ, OUE Bayfront, Fullerton Heritage, Merlion (naturally) and the bay promenade are also "must-sees". What this means is that Raffles Place station has become the unexpected winner in the development - Raffles Place is NO LONGER quiet on the weekends already. Promenade station on the other hand, does not deliver as much people as I had expected, with most of the crowds being locals going to Suntec City and Millenia Walk. I can only imagine that the CCLe's real purpose and SMRT's focus will be on Marina Bay station, allowing EWL passengers to bypass Raffles Place to get to the new downtown. I guess what I'm trying to say is that DBG-Promenade is very useless, and will lightly see less frequencies. It will be very interesting to see who gets to operate the DTL because that'd mean SMRT can co-ordinate schedules according to real-time demand rather than second-guessing what might happen to achieve efficiency and profitability.

August 28th, 2011, 02:35 AM	#1026
mrtfreak Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,985 Likes (Received): 3	Guess where. image hosted on flickr http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3012/...d597a59126.jpg

August 28th, 2011, 03:01 AM	#1028
mrtfreak Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,985 Likes (Received): 3	Bingo. Kind of a rare sight? Here's another... image hosted on flickr http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5299/...178c7cac73.jpg

August 28th, 2011, 05:00 AM	#1029
Seloloving Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Singapore Posts: 2,897	Um, how exactly is that a rare sight? o.o

August 28th, 2011, 11:21 AM	#1030
mrtfreak Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,985 Likes (Received): 3	First photo was taken at HarbourFront platform B which is hardly ever used. Secondly, the train seen behind is actually on the reverse siding, which again, is hardly ever used. So the combination of those means its not a commonly seen sight.

August 28th, 2011, 03:47 PM	#1031
Seloloving Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Singapore Posts: 2,897	I wouldn't say hardly ever used. I would say rarely sighted. Nice photos nevertheless.

August 28th, 2011, 03:59 PM	#1033
Seloloving Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Singapore Posts: 2,897	I am an idiot. Proven.

August 29th, 2011, 09:15 AM	#1035
Seloloving Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Singapore Posts: 2,897	HarbourFront. Still need a photo? I am going out now.

August 29th, 2011, 09:21 AM	#1038
Seloloving Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Singapore Posts: 2,897	Um, which direction do you want, exactly? Facing the overrun tunnels or facing the OTP bound tunnel?

August 29th, 2011, 11:11 AM	#1040
Seloloving Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Singapore Posts: 2,897	Tunnel too dark, could not take anything noteworthy, will try again when the tunnel lights are on, sorry.