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View Poll Results: New York Times Tower or Bank of America Tower?
New York Times 26 34.21%
Bank of America 50 65.79%
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Old May 14th, 2005, 10:22 PM   #21
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NTT looks to boxy.. i like BoA better. good to see NYC rebuilding.
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Old May 15th, 2005, 05:45 AM   #22
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1000 footers?

One's 950ft and the other is 850ft.

Anyways, I'll take BOA
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Old May 16th, 2005, 10:47 PM   #23
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I like both of them, and being on 42nd, all those spires will look like candles, I can't wait to see them built, on top of that the NYTT is already getting above ground!
Even though I like the BoAT, I prefer the NYTT for its top that beats all
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Old August 9th, 2007, 06:20 AM   #24
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What does everyone think now?

BOA:



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Old August 9th, 2007, 06:23 AM   #25
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Boa for sure.
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Old August 9th, 2007, 06:30 AM   #26
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Both are great and I wouldn't mind having either of the two in my city. But I think I'll go with the New York Times for now. I'm not really a fan of BOA's shape. Plus, it is so rare nowadays for a skyscraper to pull off a modernist design without looking too cheap and tacky. The NYT definitely pulls it off! But the more I look at BOA, the more I like it. I'll wait for BOA to be complete before I give my final vote, in which I will probably change my mind then. So, I won't vote just yet.
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Old August 9th, 2007, 06:40 AM   #27
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1000 footers?

One's 950ft and the other is 850ft.

Anyways, I'll take BOA


Right:

In Hong Kong:

Bank of China is only 1001'

Central Plaza is only 1,014'

The Center is only 958'

as opposed to 1,227'- 1,205'- 1,135'

and in Dubai

Emirates office tower is 1,020 ft and not 1,163'

Burj Al Arab is 900 ft and not 1,053'

Emirates Hotel tower is 856' and not 1,001'

In Chicago, Trump is 1,171'- not 1,362'

Shun Hing Square in Shenzhen is 1,066' not 10 ft taller than ESB by way of teeny antennae's that make it 1,260'

Seg Plaza in Shenzhen 957', and not 1,167'

and @ 1,056' Citic plaza is not 1,283'

point is: Of course they are all considered taller because of their pinnacle heights but if Central Plaza is 1,227' then Boa is 1,200 ft. That thing ontop of Shung Hing Square officially ranks it higher than the Empire State Building.. they are spires. Then the spire on nytt counts just the same.
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Old August 9th, 2007, 04:57 PM   #28
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In my opinion, Bank of America has a much more sleek design.

And thanks nygirl, people need to leave New York's spires alone.
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Old August 9th, 2007, 05:12 PM   #29
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BoC's and Central Plaza's (and The Center's for that matter) spire's look good in proportion to their height.

Some of the new NYC buildings under construction have strangely disproportionate looking spires.
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Old August 9th, 2007, 07:29 PM   #30
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I don't think that's the case. Regardless they are spires that add height. Without the spires on Boc it barely breaks 1,000', without the spire on The Center it wouldn't even break 1'000 ft. The issue of official height by spire is objective observation. The fact that they look good is subjective opinion. The registered height is based on fact and not opinion. Therefore if those buildings in HK are 200 feet taller officially by way of spire than the same goes for these buildings in NY. Like it or not. If the building's spires in New York don't count then why should everywhere else? The fact is they do count in New York and they do count everywhere else you see one. So knock Shun Hing Square off of your top lists.. Because Empires' spire which is actually structurally connected to the rest of the building rises much taller than that of the rooftop of SHS. If this is the case than Burj Dubai is 200 ft shorter than it actually is scheduled to top out at ( leaving 200 extra ft for some other city to claim WTB one day). Let's face it the pinnacle on that building is no different than the spires on Petronas and we all know how that debocle turned out.
The thing is we almost all collectively recognize these spires as additional heights on all these buildings. 1200 ft sounds alot better than 1000 ft. Doesn't change the fact that BOC is a fantastic building but significantly drops the height.

I see all buildings with the spires for the heights they are with their spires. BOA and Nytt spires are drastically taller than most others. I can accept that. Doesn't change the fact that they pass the 1000' mark. Does it?
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Old August 10th, 2007, 12:50 AM   #31
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B of A's better.
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Old August 10th, 2007, 01:28 AM   #32
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Both didn't do much for me when they were first planned, and in both cases I've completely reversed my views. They're both fantastic.
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Old August 10th, 2007, 07:29 AM   #33
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I don't think that's the case. Regardless they are spires that add height. Without the spires on Boc it barely breaks 1,000', without the spire on The Center it wouldn't even break 1'000 ft. The issue of official height by spire is objective observation. The fact that they look good is subjective opinion. The registered height is based on fact and not opinion. Therefore if those buildings in HK are 200 feet taller officially by way of spire than the same goes for these buildings in NY. Like it or not. If the building's spires in New York don't count then why should everywhere else? The fact is they do count in New York and they do count everywhere else you see one. So knock Shun Hing Square off of your top lists.. Because Empires' spire which is actually structurally connected to the rest of the building rises much taller than that of the rooftop of SHS. If this is the case than Burj Dubai is 200 ft shorter than it actually is scheduled to top out at ( leaving 200 extra ft for some other city to claim WTB one day). Let's face it the pinnacle on that building is no different than the spires on Petronas and we all know how that debocle turned out.
The thing is we almost all collectively recognize these spires as additional heights on all these buildings. 1200 ft sounds alot better than 1000 ft. Doesn't change the fact that BOC is a fantastic building but significantly drops the height.

I see all buildings with the spires for the heights they are with their spires. BOA and Nytt spires are drastically taller than most others. I can accept that. Doesn't change the fact that they pass the 1000' mark. Does it?
Course not, just pointing out that some of the newer towers being built in the Big Apple have ungainly spires.

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Old August 10th, 2007, 09:48 AM   #34
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Both of these structures are very remarkable, but this is owned by BoA. I would like these two buildings a lot more if they didn't cheat their height with huge spires.
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Old August 10th, 2007, 09:55 AM   #35
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New York Times for being a superior design.
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Old August 10th, 2007, 07:36 PM   #36
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I think the freedom tower is gonna look good with the spire.

my vote is for b of a, considering the height and the angles.
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Old August 10th, 2007, 09:23 PM   #37
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BoA for me
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