Old and Victorian Liverpool - Black 'n' White photos - Page 21

Ben_W · July 30th, 2011, 01:27 AM

mondoro · August 17th, 2011, 04:49 PM

I'm working on a history of the 1886 International Exhibition in Liverpool and its less well-known successor, the Jubilee Exhibition of 1887, overshadowed by the
Manchester show of that year. I have tracked down plenty of engravings from the Ill London News and the official catalogues and guides, but have found no photographs. Does anyone know of anything extant? I would be surprised if no pictures were taken: Manchester not only had an official photographer, but a dedicated photographic sections in its exhibition.

Since getting things published in print form becomes more difficult every day with the current recession, I shall probably opt for an ebook format. It's a story worth telling anyway.

makella · September 29th, 2011, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Keayman

During WWII, the Walker Art Gallery was taken over for use by the Ministry of Food. Food as we knew it became difficult to obtain and was rationed, people were encouraged to grow their own. In September 1940, Lord Woolton, the Minister of Food and himself from Liverpool asked the Liverpool tenements architect, Lancelot Keay to draw up plans for what were to become known as 'British Restaurants' Over 2000 of these establishments were to open across the land, the idea being that affordable food would be available to all whilst saving on fuel and power within the home.

On 11th November 1940, Lord Woolton opened the fast moving Keay's first British Restaurant called 'Byrom' (1st photo) integrated into part of the newly built Fontenoy Gardens tenement scheme. The second called 'Myrtle' (2nd photo) was opened by the Lord Mayor of Liverpool in Falkner Street on 3rd March 1941, again as part of the tenement block of Windsor Gardens, itself part of the larger Myrtle Gardens sceme.

In fact four of the first six 'British Restaurants' were contained in tenement developments, the other two being in Warwick Gardens and Prince Albert Gardens.

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And here's our favourite "scouser" Tommy Trinder..... how the eff he was picked for the Byrom Restaurant beggars belief, it's not as if there was a shortage of Liverpudlian comic artistes at the time.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...6801028216592#

MR KITE · October 9th, 2011, 09:57 PM

image hosted on flickr

http://www.flickr.com/photos/54996985@N00/5472048265/

Pobbie · October 9th, 2011, 11:11 PM

I don't know if this has been posted or not:

Apparently it's the oldest known photograph of Liverpool - taken in 1851. It was discovered about a year ago by Colin Wilkinson.

More information regarding the photograph on his blog: http://streetsofliverpool.co.uk/the-...-of-liverpool/

MR KITE · December 6th, 2011, 01:18 AM

A few with the custom house in shot.

http://malcolmlowryatthe19thhole.blo...liverpool.html

From here http://www.merchantnavyofficers.com/topp3.html

Portobello Red · December 21st, 2011, 07:13 PM

Pump House Albert Dock 1910s
ronramstew
image hosted on flickr

steve068 · January 9th, 2012, 08:40 PM

Great Videos found on youtube:

Liverpool - The City As It Was (Part 1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHs-C..._order&list=UL

There is 3 parts and well worth a look.

Also Liverpool University say Lumière film footage should be ready soon. Here is article:

https://news.liv.ac.uk/2012/01/06/un...-of-liverpool/

Pobbie · January 10th, 2012, 11:32 PM

The Lumiere footage has been on YouTube for almost four years now! Unless there's some previously unreleased footage.

This shows St. George's Hall and Church Street, a ride along the Overhead Railway and a brief snippet of the Town Hall. The year is either 1896 or 1897.

steve068 · January 11th, 2012, 11:28 AM

I understand the film is going to be recreated using latest digital technology then shown in the overhead railway carriage so as to create a real life experience.

see below.

Dr Richard Koeck, from the School of Architecture, said: “By using forensic investigative techniques derived from architectural practice, I was able to produce a series of animations that reflect precise geographical references between where the original films were shot on an historic ordinance survey map and the historical film themselves

McGrath · January 14th, 2012, 12:07 AM

Wow, that film is wonderful. Amazing to see how the sizes of the ships diminish as they travel south on the Overhead until sails are visible in Princes Dock. It's also the first I've ever seen of what stood south of Princes Dock, they look like really old and ramshackle structures.
Best of all is the hustle and bustle on the street. Can this ever be recaptured?

the golden vision · January 28th, 2012, 12:04 AM

81-89 Lord St in the year of its opening,1901, Walter Aubrey Thomas(Liver Buildings fame) The arcade survived minus its 2nd floor glass roof until the early 90's. I didn't see it myself i'm glad to say, because that one would one too far, Liverpool, why did this happen?

Photos, English Heritage.

aek-94 · January 28th, 2012, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by the golden vision

81-89 Lord St in the year of its opening,1901, Walter Aubrey Thomas(Liver Buildings fame) The arcade survived minus its 2nd floor glass roof until the early 90's. I didn't see it myself i'm glad to say, because that one would one too far, Liverpool, why did this happen?

Photos, English Heritage.

Wow, the amount of architecture which Liverpool has lost frustrates me

What happened to this arcade, how was it lost?

chase_me · January 28th, 2012, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by the golden vision

81-89 Lord St in the year of its opening,1901, Walter Aubrey Thomas(Liver Buildings fame) The arcade survived minus its 2nd floor glass roof until the early 90's. I didn't see it myself i'm glad to say, because that one would one too far, Liverpool, why did this happen?

Photos, English Heritage.

Wow what a crime, what's replaced this now?( sorry my knowledge of Liverpool is shoddy) and is there other surviving examples of arcades left in the city?

the golden vision · January 28th, 2012, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by chase_me

Wow what a crime, what's replaced this now?( sorry my knowledge of Liverpool is shoddy) and is there other surviving examples of arcades left in the city?

The building is still there, it's the interior that has gone,and no,there aren't any other examples of this type in the city.

chase_me · January 28th, 2012, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by the golden vision

The building is still there, it's the interior that has gone,and no,there aren't any other examples of this type in the city.

By interior you mean the deco or it's not an arcade anymore?

the golden vision · January 28th, 2012, 08:58 AM

The arcade has gone.

chase_me · January 28th, 2012, 05:52 PM

That's a shame, thanks for the answers btw. What's the place being used for now? Offices?

Medi73#! · January 28th, 2012, 06:51 PM

Although the arcade has apparently gone I still hope that one day this building could be developed into a single unit again, it would make a great department store. Its present state is poor.

kevsy21 · January 28th, 2012, 10:03 PM

Its a good thread,enjoy seeing the old pics,thanks for sharing.

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mondoro Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Liverpool Posts: 5 Likes (Received): 0	I'm working on a history of the 1886 International Exhibition in Liverpool and its less well-known successor, the Jubilee Exhibition of 1887, overshadowed by the Manchester show of that year. I have tracked down plenty of engravings from the Ill London News and the official catalogues and guides, but have found no photographs. Does anyone know of anything extant? I would be surprised if no pictures were taken: Manchester not only had an official photographer, but a dedicated photographic sections in its exhibition. Since getting things published in print form becomes more difficult every day with the current recession, I shall probably opt for an ebook format. It's a story worth telling anyway. Last edited by mondoro; August 17th, 2011 at 04:50 PM. Reason: missing word

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Pobbie BANNED Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,234 Likes (Received): 20	I don't know if this has been posted or not: Apparently it's the oldest known photograph of Liverpool - taken in 1851. It was discovered about a year ago by Colin Wilkinson. More information regarding the photograph on his blog: http://streetsofliverpool.co.uk/the-...-of-liverpool/

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MR KITE Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: LIVERPOOL Posts: 911 Likes (Received): 49	A few with the custom house in shot. http://malcolmlowryatthe19thhole.blo...liverpool.html From here http://www.merchantnavyofficers.com/topp3.html

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steve068 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 22 Likes (Received): 3	Great Videos found on youtube: Liverpool - The City As It Was (Part 1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHs-C..._order&list=UL There is 3 parts and well worth a look. Also Liverpool University say Lumière film footage should be ready soon. Here is article: https://news.liv.ac.uk/2012/01/06/un...-of-liverpool/

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Pobbie BANNED Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,234 Likes (Received): 20	The Lumiere footage has been on YouTube for almost four years now! Unless there's some previously unreleased footage. This shows St. George's Hall and Church Street, a ride along the Overhead Railway and a brief snippet of the Town Hall. The year is either 1896 or 1897.

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steve068 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 22 Likes (Received): 3	I understand the film is going to be recreated using latest digital technology then shown in the overhead railway carriage so as to create a real life experience. see below. Dr Richard Koeck, from the School of Architecture, said: “By using forensic investigative techniques derived from architectural practice, I was able to produce a series of animations that reflect precise geographical references between where the original films were shot on an historic ordinance survey map and the historical film themselves

January 14th, 2012, 12:07 AM	#411
McGrath Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 446 Likes (Received): 7	Wow, that film is wonderful. Amazing to see how the sizes of the ships diminish as they travel south on the Overhead until sails are visible in Princes Dock. It's also the first I've ever seen of what stood south of Princes Dock, they look like really old and ramshackle structures. Best of all is the hustle and bustle on the street. Can this ever be recaptured?

January 28th, 2012, 12:04 AM	#412
the golden vision Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,750 Likes (Received): 169	81-89 Lord St in the year of its opening,1901, Walter Aubrey Thomas(Liver Buildings fame) The arcade survived minus its 2nd floor glass roof until the early 90's. I didn't see it myself i'm glad to say, because that one would one too far, Liverpool, why did this happen? Photos, English Heritage.

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the golden vision Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,750 Likes (Received): 169	The arcade has gone.

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chase_me Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Manchester Posts: 148 Likes (Received): 0	That's a shame, thanks for the answers btw. What's the place being used for now? Offices?