DEFENDING the Lion City

[babystan03]

Originally Posted by huaiwei

Now that's gross! Well I never tried to see if I truly stood out or not in that sense anyway!

Nobody in their right mind would be facing the other direction when they shower, no matter how short they may be. Are you suggesting you face others as u bath, mr stan?

Oh is it?....I always face the other direction to "water" my back area..... I guess being nearly "blind" helps me a lot because I can't see what's people seeing??? haha...

Unfortunately, I don't have the time to think at that moment whether to face people or not....it was so "chaotic"....haha...

[huaiwei]

Originally Posted by babystan03

Oh is it?....I always face the other direction to "water" my back area..... I guess being nearly "blind" helps me a lot because I can't see what's people seeing??? haha...

Unfortunately, I don't have the time to think at that moment whether to face people or not....it was so "chaotic"....haha...

Erm...I would rather adjust the shower head to let the water splash my backside? Anyway I cant see much w/o specs too anyway...haha!

[babystan03]

Originally Posted by huaiwei

Erm...I would rather adjust the shower head to let the water splash my backside? Anyway I cant see much w/o specs too anyway...haha!

Unfortunately for my camp...the shower head is stationary....so I have to manourver myself....haha...

Seems like we both are fortunate for the wrong reasons(being "blind" means we do not know we being seen or not)....

[huaiwei]

SAF seeks meaner machines

New armoured vehicle will have precision-guided firepower

By David Boey

THE Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) is looking to replace its ageing SM1 light tanks with a revolutionary new armoured fighting vehicle.

Instead of the conventional-looking tank with a gun in a revolving turret, the new vehicle may have two guns or even none at all - armed instead with precision-guided missiles.

Lifting the veil for the first time on SAF's plans to build a new armoured fighting vehicle, Brigadier General Bernard Tan, Chief Armour Officer, said it would take 'three to five years' to develop test versions of a new armoured fighting vehicle once the conceptual ideas are agreed upon.

In an interview with The Straits Times before a parade yesterday marking SAF Armour's 35th anniversary, BG Tan said there's a 'furious debate' on what sort of armoured vehicle it needs.

The intensity of the debate is fuelled by different ideas SAF soldiers have on matters related to its design.

These include how much armour the vehicle should have, whether it should be armed with a gun, missiles or both, how much it should rely on computers and crew size.

The SAF's experience in the design of the vehicle is founded on the upgrades it had done of the AMX-13 light tank and the M-113 armoured personnel carrier, as well as projects that led to the production locally of the Bionix infantry fighting vehicle and a multi-purpose tracked vehicle called Bronco.

In outlining what the SAF's third generation (3G) armoured fighting vehicles could look like, BG Tan said: 'It is going to be packed with greater firepower - not necessarily direct fire weapons - but certainly the ability to call on precision fire, to be entirely wired up, highly mobile.'

Direct fire weapons such as tank guns need to be pointed straight at their target for a hit. Such weapons can destroy targets faster, but cannot hit targets behind obstructions like hills or buildings. They are unlike indirect fire weapons such as mortars and some types of missiles whose warheads are lobbed high over obstructions.

The vehicle used by 3G armoured forces promises to give soldiers a 'comprehensive awareness' of events unfolding on the battlefield as well as enemy intentions.

Also, precision-guided munitions, which now make up only a small proportion of SAF Armour's arsenal, would be the weapon of choice in the future, over the present-day unguided or dumb munitions.

This means the new vehicle may carry less ammunition.

'That's because you've got a greater hit probability, which means your dumb round requirements start to go down,' said BG Tan, who is also Commander of 25th Division.

In turn, the general firepower requirement would likely go down, probably leading to trimmer, lighter, more mobile and protected forces rather than larger, heavier ones.

'Now, this is a big turn in the development of armoured vehicles,' he added.

These armoured units may also include unmanned robots to monitor the battlefield or to destroy enemy units.

The development of the 3G arsenal will eventually make the current SM1 light tank redundant. For now, it remains a mainstay of the SAF armoured units and is still effective because of the various improvements done on it.

Made in France in the late 1940s as the AMX-13, the 18-tonne tank has been upgraded locally with, among other things, a better fire control system and more lethal ammunition.

The 3G arsenal with the new armoured vehicle can quicken the pace of battle by three to four times.

BG Tan said: 'At the end of the day, you cannot wait for the last man to die or surrender before you go in to take a position. At some stage, you've got to engage him in close battle.

'Armour is the arm of decision. When you employ this force at the decisive point, it tilts the battle totally.'


Upgraded locally and to be replaced eventually, the SM1 tank makes an appearance at SAF Armour's 35th anniversary parade. -- ONG CHIN KAI

[heirloom]

Senior Minister 1

[huaiwei]

Originally Posted by babystan03

Unfortunately for my camp...the shower head is stationary....so I have to manourver myself....haha...

Seems like we both are fortunate for the wrong reasons(being "blind" means we do not know we being seen or not)....

I would rather go hug the wall then turn around......

[babystan03]

Originally Posted by huaiwei

I would rather go hug the wall then turn around......

"molesting" the wall then "expose" yourself....don't sound like a bright idea to me....haha....

[huaiwei]

Originally Posted by babystan03

"molesting" the wall then "expose" yourself....don't sound like a bright idea to me....haha....

Aiyah I am quite sure I am skinny enough to fit into the space between the water and the wall. Been there done that!

Anyhow my unit camp also have respectable showering facilities what.....3 walls and an adjustable shower head?

[babystan03]

Originally Posted by huaiwei

Aiyah I am quite sure I am skinny enough to fit into the space between the water and the wall. Been there done that!

Anyhow my unit camp also have respectable showering facilities what.....3 walls and an adjustable shower head?

I not so lucky....my camp is not the gorgeous new camp that you see at tekong but the older and "haunt" one at the inner part of the island....

Have you heard of the "Charlie incident" and "the third door"???

[huaiwei]

Originally Posted by babystan03

I not so lucky....my camp is not the gorgeous new camp that you see at tekong but the older and "haunt" one at the inner part of the island....

Have you heard of the "Charlie incident" and "the third door"???

I noe lah...I am talking about Jurong Camp lah. The new BMTC no need to say lah.

Heard on tv and on the internet, but got so many copycats and variants leh...

[babystan03]

Originally Posted by huaiwei

I noe lah...I am talking about Jurong Camp lah. The new BMTC no need to say lah.

Heard on tv and on the internet, but got so many copycats and variants leh...

Ya lah....especially so when I've been to the real place during guard duty at night........

[huaiwei]

Originally Posted by babystan03

Ya lah....especially so when I've been to the real place during guard duty at night........

So what did you see?

[babystan03]

Originally Posted by huaiwei

So what did you see?

Nothing much.... the place was sealed....can be some taoist "fu"....feel kinda cold and creepy when you pass by....other than that not much....no invitation....

[huaiwei]

Originally Posted by babystan03

Nothing much.... the place was sealed....can be some taoist "fu"....feel kinda cold and creepy when you pass by....other than that not much....no invitation....

Sealed? Interesting...... Are we going to end up discussing about army ghost stories now?

[babystan03]

Originally Posted by huaiwei

Sealed? Interesting...... Are we going to end up discussing about army ghost stories now?

haha...also can....got some of my own experience...haha.....

[huaiwei]

Originally Posted by babystan03

haha...also can....got some of my own experience...haha.....

Wah then u share yours loh......I didnt have any interesting stuff to share thou.

[babystan03]

Originally Posted by huaiwei

Wah then u share yours loh......I didnt have any interesting stuff to share thou.

There was this exceptionally "cold" night in Tekong....It was usual hot...but that night was cold.....I was in the midst of sleeping then all of a sudden, someone light up the bunk....and tell everyone to wake up......

The guy who wake us up then went back to his bed sitting there.....and his face is as white as paper..... We ask him what happen....he refused to say....At this point of time.....the light suddenly go off........

Another guy go and switch on the light again but it seem a little flickering....The sergant came in at this point of time questioning us why we switch on the lights..... They then brought the "frightened" guy to their sergant bunk.....

When that guys "recover" from fright the other day....his buddy ask him what happen....he told him he saw "someone" walking in the bunk.....................................................................

[huaiwei]

MUAHAHAAA!!!!

Thankfully it is still 7.30pm now....!

[babystan03]

Originally Posted by huaiwei

MUAHAHAAA!!!!

Thankfully it is still 7.30pm now....!

Got another one.....

There was this very "haunted" SOC place where we always there for training....

One day one of the guys I knew sprain his leg while doing the rope thing....Then there was this sergant who is damn sadistic say he chow geng....

Then one day when the sergant doing demostration....he mysteriously sprain his leg at the same spot......

When I orded....one of the sergant told us last time there was this recruit who fall and died at the spot............................................

[huaiwei]

I tot the falling and dying was on the jacob's ladder rather then this rope? I did my SOC there too what, but dunno if it is the same hunted one.

You talking about the same sergant ah? Serve him right loh. He is lucky the spirits didnt make him die instead (sekali the dead was a recruit who kana tekan by disgusting sgts too)