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Old September 14th, 2005, 11:14 PM   #181
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I should go over there and take some pics.
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Old September 15th, 2005, 03:16 AM   #182
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Beat cha Pan Stanislav !!

Latest Look : today september 14, 2005


Not much on the tower portion since I was there last week.....

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Old September 15th, 2005, 05:57 AM   #183
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will this building be 840f or 801f to the top of the fins?
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Old September 15th, 2005, 06:43 AM   #184
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well..according to the Official web site...... "The tower would reach a height of 748 feet, and a mast on the roof would bring it up to 1,140 feet."
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Old September 15th, 2005, 08:47 AM   #185
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The frame is up 14 floors, or 25%, that's damn fast, but remember this one has a standard framing (or better word "typical") layout, as each floor is the same plan all the way up through the 52nd floor, there will probably be a mechanical floor or two above this, and the roof, with the glass projections.

this should prove to be a sleek, glass office tower, without setbacks on any side, for some 800', the framing should go up extremely fast, she's a great glass office tower, but i'm looking at the completion of the framing, to see how she joins the rest of the skyline before i make my assessment.
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Old September 15th, 2005, 10:33 PM   #186
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748 is the roof. 801 is the fins. 1,046 is the spire.
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Old September 16th, 2005, 01:21 AM   #187
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I can't see it in any of the pictures but where's the concrete core that you ususally see on most skyscraper constructions?

BTW, I love this building.
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Old September 16th, 2005, 01:31 AM   #188
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^ mmm good question..

I havent noticed that either......there is none !!!
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Old September 16th, 2005, 04:20 AM   #189
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^ mmm good question..

I havent noticed that either......there is none !!!

You're saying there's not concrete core? It's pretty much a steel cage? I need more clarfication.
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Old September 16th, 2005, 05:02 AM   #190
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That is one cool building they're constructing in NY. One question, is it going to be entirely NYTimes - or will it be a residential-like building but with the NYT name? Anyway, I can't wait till they finish. I'll have to visit.
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Old September 16th, 2005, 06:37 AM   #191
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It'll have extra office space for another tenant. No residential in this one.
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Old September 16th, 2005, 06:46 AM   #192
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Excellent! Glad to have another building to view.


Here it is on Page 2, 3rd building. From SkyScraper Page
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Old September 16th, 2005, 10:16 AM   #193
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More steel! GREAT!
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Old September 16th, 2005, 09:54 PM   #194
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You're saying there's not concrete core? It's pretty much a steel cage? I need more clarfication.
very very few New York skyscrapers have a concrete core... its mostly just steel in these constructions.

look at any N Y skyscraper being built at the moment e.g. hearst tower, and you will see.
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Old September 17th, 2005, 06:03 AM   #195
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Quote:
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748 is the roof. 801 is the fins. 1,046 is the spire.
For it's actual height, most would just use the rooftop height and exclude anything structual.
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Old September 19th, 2005, 02:20 AM   #196
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I was under the impression that some kind of concrete core system was to be standard on all tall structures in NYC, or nationwide, for that matter.
As for the question about why the core is not visable, back in the day, the core was poured ahead of the steel framing becouse it was less labor intensive in the case of formwork, the steel was erected several floors below (at least 6) the core, (where the term "steel surround" comes from) and either, welded to plates, or flange connectors, (for bolt's) embedded in the core, and tied into it's internal renforcement.

However, now there is a new type of self jacking formwork, that that can perform the same type of operation after the steel has been erected, from inside (I would assume, at least 4 tiers, or 8 floors behind the steel crews) The only thing about this method that's better, is that now the core becomes an integral part of the already completed, stronger steel structure.

There is some info on this system on one of the 7 WTC thread's
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Old September 19th, 2005, 02:22 AM   #197
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Damn this one's fast!! Impressive
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Old September 19th, 2005, 06:36 AM   #198
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so.............

Latest look today Sunday September 18, 2005




















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Old September 19th, 2005, 12:46 PM   #199
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Thanks Carlos - as always highly appreciated.
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Old September 19th, 2005, 01:07 PM   #200
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OH GOD, I can see the facade's frame coming up!!
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