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Old November 25th, 2006, 01:55 PM   #261
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Old November 25th, 2006, 02:10 PM   #262
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That's because the RER is more of a suburban rail network than a genuine metro network...

But as I've come to understand, bi-level trains are quite an oddity in the States. Germany already had them in the 1930's...
But isn't RER exactly like San Francisco's? They go out in the suburbs above ground, but they're underground once they reach city proper?? And RER is way more extensive with lots of underground stations in Paris with different lines that reach different part of the city. People count SF as a metro, but I think it's a waaaay smaller version of RER. So if people were counting SF as metro, I thought I could count RER too.
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Old November 25th, 2006, 02:36 PM   #263
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Good point. BART is more of a suburban rail network than a 'real' metro network, in that it's not primarily intended to serve the city of SF itself. But then you shouldn't forget that the London Underground was running well into the suburbs of London when the network vastly expanded in the first half of the 20th cty. Nowadays, those 'suburbs' are part of the city proper.
Problem is, that there is no clear-cut definition for a metro network, a suburban rail network or any other network for that matter, 100% excluding the other and applicable to all rail networks in the world, in the past, now and in the future. But I think the main reason why RER is called suburban rather than metro, is first of all because Paris's 'real' metro only runs within the city itself (with some lines extending beyond the Périphérique) - and the Parisians don't really consider the city outside this ring road as belonging to Paris itself (they're called the banlieues - suburbs), and secondly, because the network was built to connect suburban rail lines formerly ending at the Paris rail terminals. Many RER lines still share their tracks with other railway lines outside the city center.
Since BART was built to connect the SF 'metro' to the city center, the name 'metro' was easily chosen. Furthermore: BART runs entirely separated from other rail traffic, making it more of a metro system than a suburban rail system.
So, in the end I guess it's all a mixed matter of nomenclature and hard facts that determines what a system is called.
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Old November 26th, 2006, 03:37 PM   #264
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Old November 28th, 2006, 01:09 AM   #265
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Old November 28th, 2006, 06:03 AM   #266
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Old November 29th, 2006, 09:02 AM   #267
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Old November 29th, 2006, 09:51 PM   #268
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Sure...that's probably why you edited your post today at 12:58 AM...
It was edited because I was referring to the previous post, not yours, egocentric!
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Old November 29th, 2006, 10:01 PM   #269
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Alrighty then. Accept my humble apologies.

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Old November 29th, 2006, 10:35 PM   #270
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Old November 29th, 2006, 10:38 PM   #271
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Old November 29th, 2006, 10:45 PM   #272
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Old November 30th, 2006, 11:19 AM   #273
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Old December 1st, 2006, 04:56 AM   #274
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Old December 11th, 2006, 04:10 PM   #275
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Old December 11th, 2006, 11:09 PM   #276
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Old December 12th, 2006, 09:22 AM   #277
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Old December 13th, 2006, 12:16 PM   #278
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Just added Barcelona last month, so my list is:

London
Lille
Liverpool (not a metro)
Dusseldorf (tram network)
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Sydney (not a metro)
Brisbane (not a metro)
Hong Kong
Barcelona

I've been to plenty of cities with underground metros that I would have liked to have travelled on, but was following a group itinerary so couldn't (Toronto, Berlin, Munich, Washington DC, Bangkok etc.), and when I was in Kuala Lumpur in 1996 I tried buying a ticket on the new elevated system just to see what it was liked, and was laughed at because it wasn't open yet
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Old December 13th, 2006, 01:16 PM   #279
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And due to fading memory, maybe also:
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Old December 13th, 2006, 02:59 PM   #280
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